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can the 5AT manual shift be reversed?

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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 03:15 AM
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can the 5AT manual shift be reversed?

I know this sounds odd, but I'd prefer to downshift by pushing forward. Has anyone done this? I'm guessing that the wires from 2 momentary switches underneath the console would need to be swapped (or swapped at the transmission control unit, wherever it is)

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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 04:45 AM
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you got it, simply need to switch the wires since it's only a simple contact switch.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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I also feel that it is backwards, but I may be too used to it now to change over.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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easiest access point swapping wires?

DHCrocks- thanks, have you seen where the wires run? Would it be easier to get to the console end (I assume the whole console would have to come out) or switch the wires at the trans control unit? I've no idea where the TCU is, or even if it's separate from the ECU.

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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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anybody with a schematic?

sorry for all the questions... does anyone have a schematic for this? What I'm thinking is that it might be smarter to put in a multipole switch (concealed) so that if I ever have trans trouble (and I hear from other posts that that is a possibility) I could easily switch it back before taking to the dealer. So if I had a schematic, I would know if there is a common line (either 12 V or ground) that goes to both microswitches. Then only 2 wires would need to be switched, which could be accomplished with a single DPDT switch.

Of course, warranty aside, the cleanest job would be to physically move the wires (or the switches themselves) in the console, and physically move the +/- gear indicators as well.

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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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get it at the shift lever, easiest location. Simply lift up on the back end of the console trim piece and it comes off, no screws attached. you need to unclip some wire harnesses for the heated seats, ashtray lights... and the the shifter lever but that's it. It can be done in under a minute. As you can see on the attached diagrams only wires 7 and 8 need to be switched. I would not recommend placing a toggle to revert back to normal as that could be disasterous, since you would be used to shifting in one direction and could accidentaly down shift insead of upshift if you made the switch. Keep it one way to be safe.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:29 AM
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woo hoo, thank you!!!

DHCrocks, this is great - so it's not going to be all that hard. Can you tell me where the "A/T device harness connector" is. If that is somewhere that I don't have to pull up interior panels, I'd prefer to go that road, as I'm afraid of starting interior rattles.

If I read the connector correctly, it's pins 7 and 8 that would need to be swapped.

Where do these pages come from? Is it something we can buy, or only available to service folks?

thanks so much
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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oops, typo. You're correct pins 7 and 8. Easiest place to get to the wires would be at the shifter it self. it's a simple panel removal and shouldn't intoduce any rattles.

those pages are from the G35 service manual, you can download it for 20 bucks, I forgot the address but do a search and it'll come up.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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$20 sounds like a good investment.

Thanks for the help
Gary
 
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