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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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The crawford cast is $395.00. How much is the spacer? Anyway if the plenum comes out to be $200 more than the spacer big deal.....again your are driving a $40K car. If $200 is too much for you, then you are probably living beyond your means by having a G35.

I can afford a 911 turbo, but then I would probably be eating top roman every night. Also I would not drive around unless I absolutley had to because I would be worried about how I was going to put gas in the car when it ran out.

That's my $0.02.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sukairain
Only $100 more? You can get a Cast Crawford for less than $300? That's a pretty good price. The last time I checked the Crawford cost almost twice as much as the spacer.
Yes, the 3/8" MD Plenum Spacer is $225 shipped vs. $395 or $600 (polished) for the Crawford Plenum according to their Web site.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Here used cast plenum. The sale is pending but maybe you can get on the list in case the deals falls through.

http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.p...51#post1352451
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
The crawford cast is $395.00. How much is the spacer? Anyway if the plenum comes out to be $200 more than the spacer big deal.....again your are driving a $40K car. If $200 is too much for you, then you are probably living beyond your means by having a G35.

I can afford a 911 turbo, but then I would probably be eating top roman every night. Also I would not drive around unless I absolutley had to because I would be worried about how I was going to put gas in the car when it ran out.

That's my $0.02.
Hey...look at your mods compared to most everyone else' mods on their G35's around here; it appears as if you've gone "all out" on your G35 (which isn't a bad thing ) and spent many thousands on mods (including that GReddy TT) whereas most of us have spent less than $1000. My point being that although we're all driving a $35k-$40k cars like you mentioned and although we can probably afford an extra $200 on another mod, the majority of those who add mods typically keep it under control and don't spend a complete fortune on mods as it's not exactly a priority in their lives. On the other hand, there are those modders like yourself who readily spend a lot of money on mods - so many thousands of $$ in fact that they could have just bought a much nicer car, like a Porsche 911 or BMW M3 for example. Either way...enjoy it!!!

What I really get a kick about are those younger kids who have totally riced-out Civics and such; some have probably spent as much or more on their mods as the car itself...that's nuts, imo, but "to each his/her own." They could have just bought a much nicer car for the same $$.
 

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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Sorry but you are wrong. Between what I paid for the car plus the mods I have, I am up to $58K. A 911 turbo is about $120,000....Like I said I could afford a 911 turbo, but I would be living way beyond my means. When I say afford, I mean yes I can make the payments on $120K car, but it would drastically change the way I live. I would have to think about every little purchase I wanted to make. "If I buy this, will I be able to make my car payment this month?" "If something breaks on the car, or I need a new suit for work, will I be **** out of luck?" That's what I mean by living beyond your means. The mods that I have on my car now have not effected my lifestyle. I don't eat top roman so I can afford the mods I have now.

The day I can buy a 911 turbo without constantly thinking how I am going to make my payments, I will have one. Until then I will surprise the hell out of the 911 turbos when I get next to them and hand them their ****! Anyway, this is just IMO. Enjoy your car and what ever mod you choose. Back on topic!




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Hey...look at your mods compared to most everyone else' mods on their G35's around here; it appears as if you've gone "all out" on your G35 (which isn't a bad thing ) and spent many thousands on mods whereas most of us might have spent less than $1000. My point being that although we're all driving a $35k-$40k car like you mentioned, the majority of those who add mods typically keep it under control and don't spend a fortune on mods as it's not exactly a priority in their lives. On the other hand, a small minority of modders spend a lot of money, so many thousands of $$ in fact that they could have just bought a much nicer car, like a Porsche 911 for example. Enjoy!!!
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Sorry but you are wrong. Between what I paid for the car plus the mods I have, I am up to $58K. A 911 turbo is about $120,000....Like I said I could afford a 911 turbo, but I would be living way beyond my means. When I say afford, I mean yes I can make the payments on $120K car, but it would drastically change the way I live. I would have to think about every little purchase I wanted to make. "If I buy this, will I be able to make my car payment this month?" "If something breaks on the car, or I need a new suit for work, will I be **** out of luck?" That's what I mean by living beyond your means. The mods that I have on my car now have not effected my lifestyle. I don't eat top roman so I can afford the mods I have now.

The day I can buy a 911 turbo without constantly thinking how I am going to make my payments, I will have one. Until then I will surprise the hell out of the 911 turbos when I get next to them and hand them their ****! Anyway, this is just IMO. Enjoy your car and what ever mod you choose. Back on topic!
Gman, If you can afford all of that, hook a brother up with that Vortec you're sellin'. I'll promise you a kidney or something if you ever need one. Think of it kind of like an insurance policy. LOL
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
Sorry but you are wrong. Between what I paid for the car plus the mods I have, I am up to $58K. A 911 turbo is about $120,000....Like I said I could afford a 911 turbo, but I would be living way beyond my means. When I say afford, I mean yes I can make the payments on $120K car, but it would drastically change the way I live. I would have to think about every little purchase I wanted to make. "If I buy this, will I be able to make my car payment this month?" "If something breaks on the car, or I need a new suit for work, will I be **** out of luck?" That's what I mean by living beyond your means. The mods that I have on my car now have not effected my lifestyle. I don't eat top roman so I can afford the mods I have now.

The day I can buy a 911 turbo without constantly thinking how I am going to make my payments, I will have one. Until then I will surprise the hell out of the 911 turbos when I get next to them and hand them their ****! Anyway, this is just IMO. Enjoy your car and what ever mod you choose. Back on topic!
Not a slightly used 911 Turbo; that could be had for $60k or so, and so could a new BMW M3, Infiniti M45, and many more. My main point was that you've spent more than $18k on mods for your $35k-$40k car...that's A LOT of dough; much, much more than most ppl (even on G35Driver.com) spend on mods for their G35. So, an add'l $200 or an add'l $50 for that matter on another mod might not be worth it for many ppl. Hey, for you, that figure might be another $5k. That kind of $$ goes to my child's prepaid college education and investment plans; not into my company car! And BTW - you shouldn't brag so much about being able to afford a 911 turbo or whatever...it's obnoxious and childish. Hey, we also have a loaded $48k FX35 and a nice house, and a pool, etc...bfd - so what, who cares?
 

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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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I see your point, but you are not seeing mine. I am not bragging about being able to afford a 911 turbo, as I said I would not buy one because it would change my lifestyle in a bad way. A lot of people can afford things they shouldn't buy. My point is that if spending the extra $200 is going to break you, then you are probably living beyond your means. That's it! Enjoy your car, the house, your pool, the kids college, and what ever mods you choose.

You seem to be taking my post personally because you choose the spacer.......What ever dude, have a great life!

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Not a slightly used 911 Turbo; that could be had for $60k or so, and so could a new BMW M3, Infiniti M45, and many more. My main point was that you've spent more than $18k on mods for your $35k-$40k car...that's A LOT of dough; much, much more than most ppl (even on G35Driver.com) spend on mods for their G35. So, an add'l $200 or an add'l $50 for that matter on another mod might not be worth it for many ppl. Hey, for you, that figure might be another $5k. That kind of $$ goes to my child's prepaid college education and investment plans; not into my company car! And BTW - you shouldn't brag so much about being able to afford a 911 turbo or whatever...it's obnoxious and childish. Hey, we also have a loaded $48k FX35 and a nice house, and a pool, etc...bfd - so what, who cares?
 

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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SixFive
So what is the Verdict on the two combined E K? Did you dyno before and after the spacer and with the Crawford on both? Any butt dyno comments?
I have dynos of spacer +stock vs Crawford. Unfortunately, I don't have the two combined on that same dyno on that day.

Butt dyno says the spacer helped, even though it was only 1/4", and even though I already had a crawford.

But I wouldn't recommend getting both. Just get one and call it a day.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by neffster
Gman, If you can afford all of that, hook a brother up with that Vortec you're sellin'. I'll promise you a kidney or something if you ever need one. Think of it kind of like an insurance policy. LOL
Can't you live with just one kidney or is that one liver? Yes I dropped a **** load of money on my car.....that's why I am trying to get as much as I can back......Eitherway, you can't put a price on happiness. Hapiness = me each time I get into my car.

Make a reasonable offer and I will think about it.............
 

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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
The crawford cast is $395.00. How much is the spacer? Anyway if the plenum comes out to be $200 more than the spacer big deal.....again your are driving a $40K car. If $200 is too much for you, then you are probably living beyond your means by having a G35.

I can afford a 911 turbo, but then I would probably be eating top roman every night. Also I would not drive around unless I absolutley had to because I would be worried about how I was going to put gas in the car when it ran out.

That's my $0.02.
Who cares what you can and cannot afford? And who the hell are you to judge someone else's financial situation based upon what mods they buy? That is pure ignorance at it's best right there folks.

I buy based on overall value, and if the part suits my needs. If you want to spend an extra $200 on something nice and shiney then go for it, under-the-hood looks don't mean squat to me and as far as I can tell that is the only thing a Crawford really does for you over a spacer.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
You seem to be taking my post personally because you choose the spacer.......What ever dude, have a great life!
Actually, I chose the MD Plenum Spacer b/c I didn't like the idea of having to get an entirely new plenum and yes, I didn't think spending $400 (or an extra $200) or more just to get an add'l 10-12 HP is worth it. I like the stealth aspect of the MD Plenum Spacer, and it seems to be a decent bang for your buck mod (if the dyno's are accurate). I do see your point; I just wanted you to understand another perspective. I am not "wrong" and neither are you; we just have different perspectives...that's all. Don't worry...if I saw you in Miami, I wouln't even attempt to challenge you...with your mods, it would be crazy! But then again, I wouldn't spend $18k on car mods either; I would've just bought a better car (but that's imho).
 

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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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...My point is that if spending the extra $200 is going to break you, then you are probably living beyond your means.
and who said they couldn't afford an extra $200?

I think it's more like why would anyone spend more money when they are getting nothing in return? If you think the extra $200 for a plenum is worth the money, then I've got some bottled air to sell you
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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I am not judging someone on what they can afford. If you choose something because of the best overall value then that's great. I guess I am not getting my point across clearly, which is why I hate communicating via email. Anyways if I offended anyone I am sorry. It's just now a days lots of people are living way beyond their means and that was the point I was making. What ever you choose plenum or spacer......enjoy it


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Who cares what you can and cannot afford? And who the hell are you to judge someone else's financial situation based upon what mods they buy? That is pure ignorance at it's best right there folks.

I buy based on overall value, and if the part suits my needs. If you want to spend an extra $200 on something nice and shiney then go for it, under-the-hood looks don't mean squat to me and as far as I can tell that is the only thing a Crawford really does for you over a spacer.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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The last posted single piece price of the scapers were
- 1/4" $195
- 3/8" $215
- 1/2" $245

- The crawfor is $395

I doubt it is about the money to anyone here (unless theyt didn't pay for the car)

Clearly everyone wants the performance, and both solutions offer that.
Obviously some debate remains on details, but they are both close in the
delivered/expected result.

The spacer 1/4" and 3/8" allow you keep the engine looking stock which is nice.
 
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