New Kinetix Intake Manifold
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its funny how after 16 pages of posts on this manifold, these people have not done or produced any numbers for NA motors. I would never purchase a plenum strictly because it looks pretty. Those of you who are talking about buying it before proven #'s are shown and just for looks are sounding like original ricers.
A plenum like that plenum is going to react completelly different to forced induction than it is going to react to a Naturally aspirated car. I would not be surprised if there were torque and power losses. It takes research and development of unbeliavable expense to take a motor like this one and make significantly better than it already is by just adding a pretty manifold. Prove me wrong.....Lets see those damn #'s and stop stalling.
A plenum like that plenum is going to react completelly different to forced induction than it is going to react to a Naturally aspirated car. I would not be surprised if there were torque and power losses. It takes research and development of unbeliavable expense to take a motor like this one and make significantly better than it already is by just adding a pretty manifold. Prove me wrong.....Lets see those damn #'s and stop stalling.
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They wont provide N/A #'s because it will show big losses under 4K. Unless they combine the intake as a staged package with matched cams, Tuned fuel/timing map piggyback, and ECU flash for the cam timing etc., this should not be sold as a N/A mod. You may have some guys put one on a N/A car and claim by their butt-dyno that there are big gains. But it will be due to the sharp contrast between the losses down low and the power band coming on as they go over 4K. Kinda like a 2-Stroke power curve. The car will actually be slower in the 1/4 mile, but to the inexperienced, it will feel faster.
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04-21-2005, 08:32 AM
Originally Posted by Dannyrotorpilot
its funny how after 16 pages of posts on this manifold, these people have not done or produced any numbers for NA motors. I would never purchase a plenum strictly because it looks pretty. Those of you who are talking about buying it before proven #'s are shown and just for looks are sounding like original ricers.
A plenum like that plenum is going to react completelly different to forced induction than it is going to react to a Naturally aspirated car. I would not be surprised if there were torque and power losses. It takes research and development of unbeliavable expense to take a motor like this one and make significantly better than it already is by just adding a pretty manifold. Prove me wrong.....Lets see those damn #'s and stop stalling.
A plenum like that plenum is going to react completelly different to forced induction than it is going to react to a Naturally aspirated car. I would not be surprised if there were torque and power losses. It takes research and development of unbeliavable expense to take a motor like this one and make significantly better than it already is by just adding a pretty manifold. Prove me wrong.....Lets see those damn #'s and stop stalling.
lets give kinetix time and see what happens....
Patience is virtue and you obviously, dont have any patience
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Originally Posted by pdjafari
^ i agree with the fact that it wont provide significant gains on an NA vehicle, however that has been stated in the thread...IF you had taken time to read the thread you wouldve seen that rather than coming here and repeating what was already said....people are just enthusiastic about more parts being produced/developed for our cars, since when was that a crime?? Again its good to be skeptical (just like crawford was/is about spacers) but to demand things and knock products before they are even released and claiming people who are enthusiastic to be 'ricers' is plain ignorance IMO.
lets give kinetix time and see what happens....
Patience is virtue and you obviously, dont have any patience
lets give kinetix time and see what happens....
Patience is virtue and you obviously, dont have any patience
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Originally Posted by nuttyprof
umm, right....
they are going to produce NA numbers next week....
maybe you guys should read the thread.
they are going to produce NA numbers next week....
maybe you guys should read the thread.
This? http://www.my350z.com/forum/showpost...6&postcount=33
With a blower, looks to me like nothing happening until 6K. A power curve like that? on a street car? No thanks. The N/A should be even less impressive. Sure makes getting at the injectors and spark plugs easier though.