Who is excited? I'm just making a point that many of the paranoid nay-sayers like to ignore when they spew all this harmonic balancer propaganda

 

Rumor has it that there's a Pro-Crawford Plenum Thread going on over on my350z.com that you may want to get involved with too copbait.

 

I'll be interested in seeing if this makes more power or not...

...but if it only results in smoother operation without an apparent power increase, we're still looking at a product that's at least as valid as the grounding kits.

As some of you seem to recognize, a mod can be more about quality-feeling operation than it is about increased power production and still be a valuable, worthwhile mod depending on your priorities.

I got the UR CP for the faster revs, knowing any additional power produced would be minimal compared to the stock 298HP. If this damper pulley has nearly the same effect on revs, but with a smoother operation than stock, I'd give it a go even if it produced no additional power over the OEM CP.

I'll be watching for updates. Of course, driving impressions will be as appreciated as (if not more) than hard numbers provided from a dyno.

 

Just got mine in. Mad props to Summit for prompt shipping.

If I don't go ahead and install it this weekend with everything else I'll try to get some dyno time for next weekend.

 

This would be great!! I just do not see me getting the time this weekend.
It would be cool to see two different dyno's Next weekend. An AT & MT

IM sure we can show up the Florida boy's Neffster I hope you read this

 

When are you supposed to dyno it? Have you done a baseline before this? Or are you going to get a baseline and then dyno it?

This would be a good alternative KJR Performance and Unorthodox Racing.

 

I do enjoy these spirited debates regarding how wonderful a new product is when it has not been independently, (end-user) tested. However, this is one of many scenarios we have seen time and time again. Let us take a stroll down lemony lane. First, we have those folks tearing out their cats and replacing them with race pipes, only to find a loss of performance in torque. Next, you have owners tearing out their brand new high performance exhausts, in favor of a louder high performance exhaust. Further, we have the LemonChip or UniChip, which claims of 20+ HP leave us over $1,300 poorer and only 14 HP shy of UniChip’s claims at 7K RPM. Where is the Autobahn when you really need it to show off your added 6HP? Yet another, the infamous grounding gear that promises silkily smooth shifting, increased performance, and enhanced vehicle behavior. As an owner of all the above, most will leave the owner thousands in the hole and only a handful of real-world HP at the wheels. As I had said before, with the exception of F/I, your best bet is a set of cams, headers and high-flow cats. Most of the other knick-knacks are best left with Ron Popeil and George Forman.

Please do not be angry with me as I fell into the same trap from savvy advertisements, half-truths, and unknowledgeable folks running wild in the forums. We must be mindful that without F/I, no matter what we do, our magic potions and bolt-on's will only yield a maximum HP gain of +/- 40WRHP. That’s it. There is no “hidden” HP that you will read at most retailer websites. Also, keep in mind that the 40RWHP I noted will cost you at a minimum, $5,660.00 including installation. The bottom line, save your money, and buy a supercharger… These discussions about grounding wires, hamonic damper, etc are silly.

There should be a "Fiction" section where these products should be discussed.

 

I disagree with you, there are some people who just do not see the gains they want to see and that's fine, you are entitled to be "mad". However, to newbies, they are believing that there is no chance of touching 300rwhp, and there is, with ~5-8,000 invested in it (before installation of anything). I've gotten together a good list of N/A mods and i'm just developing it further before I post.

 

[QUOTE=realdieu] Most of the other knick-knacks are best left with Ron Popeil and George Forman.


Now how can I reply to that? I do not disagree with you at all. And to be honest I like the way you write. This is a very pricey hobby for me and at my age I have more money than time. I have no plans to race my car nor do I want to SC it. I think there is a lot of "crap" parts out there. I went threw all of this some 20 years ago. Be Chevy. Ford, ect.
Bigger this trick that. This I can say IM being very careful about my mods and feel I have made some good decisions based on some of your posts and others. Plus I do have a back ground in drag racing. As far as the damper It will give me more piece of mind. It may not give you more HP but I know from using this type before it has some hidden benefits. I was going to PM you and ask a few questions about brakes after my currant installs are done. I truly enjoy working on my car. I just put you on my buddy list. Pasta

 

It is ok to disagree and you are entitled to be irritated. No one will knock you for that. However, I do look forward to your "project" that yields you that magic 300RWHP or that additional 65-67RWHP from stock.

I do not want to steal your thunder from your magic project but it should be clear that your magic list will contain Cams, Headers, High-Flow Cats, Exhaust, Spacer, Intake and some sort of iteration of an ECU modification. Other than that your tapped. Therefore, I am curious if you will venture into boring the engine block and adding new pistons, or some other DIY job. As well, shall we expect to be nickel and dimed with pulleys, grounding wires, etc, etc.

As we can see, your argument to obtain 65RWHP on an N/A G35 is to spend $8,000 on bolt-on’s. Be prepared to explain the disadvantage of a $5,239 Stillen Supercharger that will yield 371 hp and 346 ft/lbs torque for about $1,000 less than your magic list.

Keep us posted on your project!

 

I was going to try for this weekend and do a baseline with crawford headers, cats, Invidia exhaust installed. I do have the UD pullies on as you can see. I will pull them off and do another dyno run on that day with the Damper on. I loved this part on my Small block Chevys.

 

No need to, the games played by the self-promoting over-hyped Crawford clan have already been exposed. My job is done

 

I'm not doing this, this is just a suggestion for those who want to try it.

Personally, i'm getting an APS TT ASAP to use for ~8.5psi and just add F/I-friendly N/A mods to gain horsepower (hoping to get up to around 450-460rwhp on the same boost level without touching internals).

This will be without touching any internals except cams.

Reliability? Power curve? Just a few.

Not a "magic list." A logical list. (and a couple of things no one has tried with the 350Z yet)

 

Well, if it gains 2-5hp then I think it's a good part to get. If it's only 1hp or less and all it does is take your money and replace the stock crank pulley with a "pretty" gray crank pulley then obviously it isn't IMO.

 

I'm curious as to how something like this would react to a supercharged G. Any thoughts?