+1 Anyway, its not all about what is on paper. I was skeptical as well, but after installing the 10 wire kit, it did improve throttle responsiveness and shifting on my 5AT. Its probably not worth doing on a manual car except for the cosmetics, but on an auto, I would say its well worth the time and money to install a set. But if you're going to do it, go the whole way and get the 10 wire. The extra paths to the ECU and trans make all the difference I think.

 

Hey 65 IQ, you back to get owned again? With your illogical arguments you do it to yourself, so I'll just sit back and watch.

Sweet, let's see some data on that. Monitor shift times before and after and let's see what the difference is. But does it matter really, as long as you *think* it's better?

 

Dude, if you want proof pony up the money and test it out. If you don't like them send me a PM and I'll buy them from you. At a discount of course. I usually don't buy things from people w/ crappy attitudes. Call it my "you're an acehole" fee.

 

You know, I disagree with MechEE on both the grounding wires, and the UD crank pulley. I think they are both worthwhile mods that have a positive effect on the engine, and the power produced at the wheels.

But you, SixFive, you're an idiot. Based on the incoherency and lack of anything resembling intelligence in your posts, I'm rather impressed that you have managed to locate the power button on your computer to even turn it on.

Have a nice life.
Dave

 

Trolling to comment on every mod one thinks is worthless is a waste of time. If you don't think mod A or B doesn't do anything, why comment? Just don't buy it.

IMHO, considering the oem grounds are like 16 or 18 AWG, I think 4 AWG is overkill. But I'm not going around to every post about ground wires stating that.

 

Ok! Munchee's teaching class. Today we are going to learn how lightening a mass makes that mass slower....and how bong hits make you smarter. You think you own someone or something but the only owning you do is of half baked concepts you repeat from textbooks but couldn't apply to reality if it was spelled out for you. Come on now, show us some cut and paste formula that you have no inputs for that is going to prove that something you never tried and know dic about isn't going to work.

You want everything proven yet you offer nothing but the stench of an unwashed ball sac in your diatribes of theoretical babble. You think it doesn't work, prove it doesn't.

...and we know you won't - you can argue all you want about what you think you know but enlightenment is beyond you as you are too much of a armchair nayayer to actually support your butt dribble.

 

There is a little feature known as ignore poster. Use it if you don't care for my posts. And what writingof mine did you hold such promise of having any intelligent resemblance? Either the kid tests what he preaches or he'll deal with me calling him a troll or whatever strikes me at the time.

Thanks for coming - buh-bye

 

I don't think the placement and location of grounding wires is a proprietary thing or can copywrited or trademarked or patented in the US. The design of the wires can be patented, but the locations can't. At least that's my understanding of US patent law.

A few months back I purchased the GG 10-wire kit for my G in hopes of fixing the shift response. After 10 days or so use, I noticed no discernable change in shift speed, response, starting, acceleration, throttle response, etc. I sold them and bought 350Z springs and OEM floor mats.

 

Dave send your wires to Munch so he can actually hold these things in his hands. Munch - learn from Daveb how to TRY the product and then decide it doesn't work. Getting lost in arguments is a lot more fun but the having a basis for your opinion is better than guessing.

 

Hey now, I spoke about the lightweight pullies only. Underdrive is a different matter all together. I'm not saying UD pullies are a great mod in general, only that my comments in general apply only to the purely lightened case. And that fact the Unorthodox claims that a majority of the gains are from the lightening isn't helping their case either.

 

I've got some TypeR stickers that are right up your alley. I guarantee they'll add 10 hp. What, you disagree? You never know 'till you try. Plus I can FEEL it, I really can! Who needs more evidence than that?

 

Honestly I wouldn't waste my time, I was just making a point. Now if a company wanted to pay me for my time in performing such an analysis, that is a different story.

Would you really only want to read positive posts about every mod? How would you know when one was a waste of money? Once someone spends the money on something and admits to putting it on their car, it's quite a feat for them to admit when it doesn't perform as expected. I prefer to get to the bottom of things, and putting my opinion out there so one can argue with it helps with that in general.

 

Reading through this thread is like watching a pack of retarded monkeys sling poo at eachother

 

How do you know they work/don't work when you have never tested it?

 

Jeff92se bring reason to the table - God what is he doing in here.

Quite a feat to have never tried it and have no basis for your conjecture that a mod wont work! And the guys whose opinions seem to be worth a crap DO admit when a mod sucks - are you an engineer genuis or a psycologist genius, anyway? Have you noticed all the enlightened folks that took off cold air intakes and went back to the stock box after no gains were made...perhaps you should give other people as much credit as you give yourself, which is entirely too much! Who cares about losing 200 bucks to a bogus mod.

I spend millions investing at the office sometimes and get no return - it happens and anyone worth thier weight in sand can admit to a error in judgement.

Right and flying Munchees might suddenly fly out of my a$$. If you wanted to get to the bottom of it you would. Your putting up alternative arguments only flys if you get off the couch.