I am totally guessing but thats not going to stop me.... this setup sits at the very rear of the car. Most of the stuff sits up under the bumber. I would assume the they would give you the 'plumbing' to tap into your exhaust pipe at the rear. You would probably cut a section out.. mount the turbo in... route the intake pipe up to the engine bay... mount the oil cooler.. mount some engine management 'piggy back'.. and viola'.

 

Very interesting design here. Everyone's question in this thread is answered in the FAQ page...

- no more lag than a typical ST setup, full boost under 3000 RPM's
- air filter is protected or uses a snorkel design
- oil runs through 12 feet of tubing
- muffler is replaced by the turbo, no need to upgrade headers, cats, cat-back

 

Their site still says coming soon for the 350Z ... although they now have a video of a Z on a dyno making turbo sounds
http://www.ststurbo.com/sts_video

 

this thread is almost a year old! i haven't seen anyone on the forums with this.

 

^that's because it isn't available (yet )

 

ya, and at this rate, prolly wont

 

I can believe that at 80mph, the turbo isn't that hot. I don't buy that it's cool enough in city driving that water hitting it won't cause something to crack. It seems like ease of packaging and installation is the driving factor. Squire Turbo Systems seems to be the only ones using this approach.

The lag may not be overwhelming, but it's going to be there more than on a conventional installtion, if the turbos are the same.

With the G's low clearance, I would pucker the leather clear up my sphincter any time I encountered road debris or had to go over a speed bump. I can't imagine those who are lowered getting away with this. It's one thing to scrape the exhaust or a crossmember, another to know that your turbo is exposed to the same.

As all of you likely can, I feel the heat pouring out from under my car when I open the door at a standstill. It's not exactly a cool enviroment during city driving. Most of my driving is city.

I'm sure the turbo gets good air circulation underneath the car while moving (enough to neglect an intercooler?), but just like others, I would have a lot more concerns with locating it under the car rather than the safety of underhood.

 

They get around that lag thing by using a pretty SMALL turbo. If they used the same sized turbo as a traditional ST, there would be huge lag issues. Also I don't like where the air filters are on these setups.

 

I agree with the air filter thing, but there are tons of people that have been using these systems with little to no problems whatsoever...id be interested in actually reaching out to those with problems to see what had happened

 

contrary what you guys may think, this system works well. it's not bad of a system actually... just need to look at the trade-offs of this system to a direct linked system and weigh the pros and cons between both (of course, only my opinions):

the remote mount uses a downpipe and wastegate dumps as the exhaust. this minimizes backpressure over lengthy plumbing and can ease up the lag found by choking within current exhaust systems. also, with the remote mount, underhood temperatures are quite cool.

the extended charged plumbing acts as a mini intercooler persay... aluminum is great for heat dissipation and obviously the (very long) charged intake tubes will cool the charged intake air. do not forget the intercooler to do so as well.

i don't know what type of turbos they use, but i am sure it's sized smaller than most for our applications. the smaller the turbo, the lesser the lag... yet to retain the same power brackets from different turbo kits available on the market, more than likely the boost will be higher, emitting hotter charged intake air. then again... the remote system has a nice cooling setup anyway which will yield competitive horsepower levels on the market.

because of the remote location, installation is a breeze. it can also be taken off prior to an inspection or whatnot without much labor... getting to the manifolds and turbo flange bolts are a female dog and a half on a platter. anyone who installed their turbo kits themselves would know. also, the remote location would leave a higher chance of getting the system stolen because of the convenience of install and uninstall. not to mention, the system probably hangs a bit lower than usual turbo setups and would cause failures if not protected properly from debris, water, contaminants, etc...

anyway, there's a z with the beta setup... here's the thread:
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=241485

if he's happy with the kit, then more than likely it was a success...

 

i have rode in 3 different sts powered vehicles. There is a shop here in town that installs/tunes them.
ford mustang/chevy camaro/pontiac firebird

the firebird is the best example. everything on it was stock, the system is just put in near the rear axle and the intake piping ran back up front to the Throttle body. There was almost no lag whatsoever. it suprised the heck outta me. he then flipped the switch to go to high boost and it felt like a 375-400 whp car(compared to the stock wheel numbers). lets just say it was easily out driving those poor stock brakes.

i give it a thumbs up from experience in them(just dont drive in heavy rain). looks cool from the back too.

 

bump for a cool thread!


lol thats my buddies Z. Its fast as hell. I have posted videos around here of it

 

Ok, with the turbo being fed by the exhaust it starts to spool as soon as you start your car, filling the intake with air, the exhaust is cooler there then at the manifold. This keeps the turbo cooler, and since it is spooling as soon as you start you will see very little turbo lag.

As far as the turbo/intake exposed thing that I have seen on this post... custom skid plate... thats what a guy I know who has a setup like that on a celica did. Also if your intake was ruptured the car would give a warning like just like if any intake became ruptured. Its obviously not a setup for someone lowering their car and if you did have it I am sure you would be a bit more careful with places that you might bottom out.

Overall, I would like to see someone with this setup on a g before I do it (you know how it is... learn from others mistakes) I am impressed by the numbers and the design of the systems. I searched google and found a g35 claiming to have a the sts setup.

 

member: FI'dG has this kit, and he seems to like it.

I did hear about very bad customer service from them recently though, so I don't know I'd they are a great company to deal with.