Best spot to hide your gauges on a G35
Im making my car a sleeper so I would like to know some good places to insert the boost gauge, EGT gauge, AFR gauge extra.. non pillar. Any advice?
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Zeitronix
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You can do this, its a great sleeper look.
http://teamwf.com/images/gauge2.jpg http://teamwf.com/images/gauge3.jpg Ill get better pics tomorrow when its brighter and I can get not so blurry pics. |
thats a nice place to have gauges provided u dont have a nav.. but its kind of hard to monitor them from there?
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Even if you have NAV you can move the unit's location...redgchic did it...
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Originally Posted by imalazeeass
thats a nice place to have gauges provided u dont have a nav.. but its kind of hard to monitor them from there?
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pshhh just cuz you have custom gauge pillars :P /slap
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If you want them hidden but able to view without opening the Nav door (console or upper dash) look at the ashtray area in front of the gear shift.
I've seen the hazard button moved and you can put 2-3 gauges there. They won't be in your line of sight but they will be visible to you and not passersby. |
The A pillar is a bad location if you ever plan on tracking the car. I have been told by many people not to do it simply because when you're coming up to a corner and trying to judge the apex, you can't see it with the a pillar gauges in your way.
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sunglass holder.
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Originally Posted by Deang35c6
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Originally Posted by Canadian
The A pillar is a bad location if you ever plan on tracking the car. I have been told by many people not to do it simply because when you're coming up to a corner and trying to judge the apex, you can't see it with the a pillar gauges in your way.
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i like G Force 06 he has the best placement for gauges -- custom mounted into the hood
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Gauge location.........
I've been trying for months to find a two gauge pod to go where the nav
would go.....ya know at the top of the console. That's a perfect location where the gauges can be seen with zero obstructions at eye level! May have to get it custom made by a speaker shop in my area. |
Originally Posted by AthenG
Great one piece gadget but not very accurate especially the AF.
It is a compromise, we use gauges to monitor our car and if you're driving the last think you want to do is look down, up or all the way to the right to check your gauges. I think the A-pillar is the easiest way to check for # and can be done on a quick glance without endangering your self. A-pillar will also tell the world that you are not stock and take away the luxury feel/look of our car, so it goes down to user preference. JMHO |
Originally Posted by Deang35c6
I have to disagree. I'm curious to know where you got your info. The Zeitronix is very accurate. It uses Bosch sensors and I have data logged it with the software and a laptop and it tracks A/F, EGT, Boost and TPS very accurately. My box is mounted to a hinge in the cubby. I don't have NAV. When I close the cubby lid, you would never know I had gauges.
This came from Sharif himself. Maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about but either way I don't have first hand experience with Zeitronix coz even Julian@MRC don't recommend it.
Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
I have used the Zeitron units, and I can tell you there are pretty crappy. The wideband is very slow, and somewhat inaccurate, and the screen is challenging to read in certain lighting conditions. I always prefer standalone gauges.
Also here's the link from Gurgen's Wideband shootout and you'll see who's the most accurate WB. At least Zeitronix made it to the list but second to the bottom http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...light=Wideband , :dunno: |
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Originally Posted by AthenG
Great one piece gadget but not very accurate especially the AF.
It is a compromise, we use gauges to monitor our car and if you're driving the last think you want to do is look down, up or all the way to the right to check your gauges. I think the A-pillar is the easiest way to check for # and can be done on a quick glance without endangering your self. A-pillar will also tell the world that you are not stock and take away the luxury feel/look of our car, so it goes down to user preference. JMHO Secondly, I agree 100%. The whole point of gauge location is to be able to monitor what is going on with your car in real time/real world situations. On the dyno, it doesn't really matter where your gauges are because you don't have to pay attention to the road. But when you are on the road, the last thing that you want to be doing is looking across to the glove compartment or down to where your ashtray is just to monitor what's going on. That is very dangerous IMHO. The A pillar isn't the greatest spot in the world for visability but it is the best alternative in our cases. Once again, just MHO. :) |
Originally Posted by imalazeeass
pshhh just cuz you have custom gauge pillars :P /slap
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Originally Posted by escobar929
thats what i just picked up.. now im either going to have to find a new a pillar to replace mine or leave my gauges im not sure what to do heres one of my idea's.. it makes it really hard with navigation |
^^^You have 2 a/f gauges??
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
BTW, here are my gauges:
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...C/P1000311.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...C/P1000307.jpg show off... oh, did you fix your tire pressure:D |
Originally Posted by AthenG
This came from Sharif himself. Maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about but either way I don't have first hand experience with Zeitronix coz even Julian@MRC don't recommend it.
Also here's the link from Gurgen's Wideband shootout and you'll see who's the most accurate WB. At least Zeitronix made it to the list but second to the bottom http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...light=Wideband , :dunno: Thanks for the links. For Shariff to call it crap because of inaccuracy and latency is strange considering the shootout states otherwise. It didn't actually come in second to last, but tied in 4th with the Dynojet unit. The column just placed them in alphabetical order in the case of ties, which happened in 2nd and 4th places. If you want a stealth setup, then the Zeitronix can offer something that even the winner can't. It's not the fastest or most accurate, but then again the OP wanted to hide his gauges. There is only one place to get the Zeitronix and that's from the company, so most vendors don't have any experience with owning or selling them. They tend to use what the sell. Upon reviewing the article, it looks like the Zeintroix is pretty average with only +/-.4 AF and 200 milliseconds off the industry leader. This is acceptable to me as the display unit can be hidden out of sight. I believe the Zeitronix is more accurate than the tailpipe sniffer than some tuners use. The logging software is very easy to use and very informative and you can log with a Palm pilot as well. |
Originally Posted by AthenG
show off... oh, did you fix your tire pressure:D
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
^^^You have 2 a/f gauges??
no that was my idea before i decided to get the knock amp.. now i dont know what to do :dunno: |
Originally Posted by Hexxum001
haha! I'm not showing off just giving people some ideas. :biggthumpup: The tire pressure light stays on permanently now cuz of my Works and no more TPMS. I honestly don't even notice it anymore. ;)
sorry for the OT but I have the same wheel with no TPMS and I don't get light. I only get it if I drive straight 80+mph and over an hr of driving but it goes away when I shutdown the car. I have 19X9.5 and 19X10.5 and the only thing I can see different is I have Silver and yours is black:D |
Originally Posted by AthenG
sorry for the OT but I have the same wheel with no TPMS and I don't get light. I only get it if I drive straight 80+mph and over an hr of driving but it goes away when I shutdown the car. I have 19X9.5 and 19X10.5 and the only thing I can see different is I have Silver and yours is black:D
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
haha!! Yeah, our apologies to the OP. You know what, I had an 05 6MT coupe and the tire pressure light would turn off even when I had wheels. Maybe 06's are different cuz on this G, it stays on. :dunno:
I guess that is it, I have an 05 6mt. Ok, Back to topic. |
Originally Posted by Hexxum001
haha! I'm not showing off just giving people some ideas. :biggthumpup: The tire pressure light stays on permanently now cuz of my Works and no more TPMS. I honestly don't even notice it anymore. ;)
You know what that means then right.. 03 04 and 05 > 06 :) |
Check out Philthy's car. He has the gauges over the center panel where the clock and HVAC readout is. You'll have to fabricate it yourself or find a shop to do it, but you can easily fit 3 gauges in there, it'll be clean and doesn't obscure your view. I think G352NV and a couple other people might've done it as well.
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Originally Posted by imalazeeass
thats weird, they should still reset and turn off. I lost my TPMS long time ago and and light has been off. It only comes on after long road trips but then turns off the next day. Check with your dealer.
You know what that means then right.. 03 04 and 05 > 06 :) Hexx's 384.1whp Vortech'd G > Mike's 370whp Vortech'd G :biggthumpup: |
Originally Posted by imalazeeass
thats weird, they should still reset and turn off. I lost my TPMS long time ago and and light has been off. It only comes on after long road trips but then turns off the next day. Check with your dealer.
You know what that means then right.. 03 04 and 05 > 06 :) |
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:bowrofl: ha, tire pressure gauge, now thats funny
here's my Zeitronix. It seems accurate to me. When I log my utec they're pretty close. An A/F guage is almost moot, as a guage to try & watch. I say almost because in most cases if it shoots up fast it's already too late. What's nice about it is if your a/f runs consistently high or low it'll alert you early enough to get things checked out. I like mine alot. Has a/f boost & egt. here's some picttures... tire pressure, hahahahhahahaha, funnyDOMO |
Originally Posted by baileyrx
:bowrofl: ha, tire pressure gauge, now thats funny
here's my Zeitronix. It seems accurate to me. When I log my utec they're pretty close. An A/F guage is almost moot, as a guage to try & watch. I say almost because in most cases if it shoots up fast it's already too late. What's nice about it is if your a/f runs consistently high or low it'll alert you early enough to get things checked out. I like mine alot. Has a/f boost & egt. here's some picttures... tire pressure, hahahahhahahaha, funnyDOMO |
Question: I tried searching, and google.com, but what is "LAMBDA".
Also, that Zeitronix guage is pretty sweet...measures A/F, EGT, and Boost... |
Originally Posted by AthenG
Just curious, how do you compare Utec and Zeitronix A/F? As far as I know Utec log don't display A/f unless you are using the Tuner.
and on a few dyno days here in GSO lambda is a +/- % of a/f: ie: 13.2 ~ 0.86 14.7 = 1.00 15.3 ~ 1.04 basically another(older) way to represent a/f |
^^^thanks, Bailey.
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
Yeah whatever Mike!
Hexx's 384.1whp Vortech'd G > Mike's 370whp Vortech'd G :biggthumpup: pwned |
Originally Posted by AthenG
Great one piece gadget but not very accurate especially the AF.
It is a compromise, we use gauges to monitor our car and if you're driving the last think you want to do is look down, up or all the way to the right to check your gauges. I think the A-pillar is the easiest way to check for # and can be done on a quick glance without endangering your self. A-pillar will also tell the world that you are not stock and take away the luxury feel/look of our car, so it goes down to user preference. JMHO If you're on the track you may want to glance at the gauges for a split second, but never long enough to actually sit there and look at them, I would assume if you're tracking and know what you're doing, you should be able to read all your gauges with the quickest glance you can give them. Now, if you have them on the A-Pillar, good luck on the track. If you're right, then I guess the professional driver that told me this info just is wrong and doesn't know what he is talking about. He wasn't the only one either, I have about 2 other people with first hand experience with tracking many many times, and they all hate the A-pillar gauges. Plus, isn't the point of this thread for a sleeper look? Gauges anywhere that can seen without looking hard kind of get rid of that look. The only other location I would recommend for gauges are where the navi goes and below that where the ash tray is, but thats some $$$$ to get something fabricated. I know for one, I wouldn'y want some gauges in my face when I'm trying to concentrate 100% on a track. |
Originally Posted by Canadian
I agree. If you're driving in the city.
If you're on the track you may want to glance at the gauges for a split second, but never long enough to actually sit there and look at them, I would assume if you're tracking and know what you're doing, you should be able to read all your gauges with the quickest glance you can give them. Now, if you have them on the A-Pillar, good luck on the track. If you're right, then I guess the professional driver that told me this info just is wrong and doesn't know what he is talking about. He wasn't the only one either, I have about 2 other people with first hand experience with tracking many many times, and they all hate the A-pillar gauges. Plus, isn't the point of this thread for a sleeper look? Gauges anywhere that can seen without looking hard kind of get rid of that look. The only other location I would recommend for gauges are where the navi goes and below that where the ash tray is, but thats some $$$$ to get something fabricated. I know for one, I wouldn'y want some gauges in my face when I'm trying to concentrate 100% on a track. Can't really argue here coz everyone has their own purpose and reason for using gauges, it is just my reason on having one is to keep an eye on my car as much as I can. I would like to have it by the Nav or dash but I don't want to spend $$$ on fabrication. All my reasoning are for Street Driving coz that's were 90% of the car are being used here, some will never even see the track. Un-Subscribing. |
i have my guages mounted to the a-pillar, but without the huge a-pillar pod. you would be amazed how much of your vision that pod takes away. hopefully i will be tracking the car in the fall, and i can let people know if my vision is obscured with the guages on the pillar. on the street i can look through them when i'm in a left handed turn.
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^^^ That's pretty much what I was talking about. My ideal spot for gauges.
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Originally Posted by Sundeviljay
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^that's cuz it is!
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
Yeah whatever Mike!
Hexx's 384.1whp Vortech'd G > Mike's 370whp Vortech'd G :biggthumpup: and it's 373! |
Originally Posted by Sundeviljay
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nope...its kinda sad that i hardly have any pics of my own car !
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Originally Posted by imalazeeass
LOL u gotta compare apples to apples not apples to oranges! I have a 3.12 pulley!
and it's 373! Hexx's 384.1whp Vortech'd G > Mike's 373whp Vortech'd G Better?? :biggthumpup: |
Originally Posted by Hexxum001
Oh my bad:
Hexx's 384.1whp Vortech'd G > Mike's 373whp Vortech'd G Better?? :biggthumpup: |
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