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There it is by popular demand^^ The well awaited DreamWorkes SuperCharger kit!
I met with Goran from DreamWorkes yesterday and here is what he had to say. Most of your answers will be answered here. Please excuse spelling. I was taking notes as he was talking so my info can be a little weird and my terms can be wrong as well. If it is PLEASE don’t complain! [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Avino (malx) of G35driver.com: Goran, I understand there is much hype and concern for this kit, give me a brief description of it and its options.
Goran of DreamWorkes: Well Joey, for one, the stage one kit is almost finished for the g35 and will be released the end of March we hope. As of now, the first 150 kits are already sold and we will be releasing 50 of them 2 months from then.
Joey: Goran, I understand you guys have three different kits, please explain them.
Goran: Well… Stage one is coming out soon. Stage one will is good for anywhere in between 400-410 horsepower on a stock coupe running our preset 6PSI. It comes with a piggyback ECU, fuel injectors, upgraded fuel rails, and other valves and such. The stage one retails for about 6,200 dollars and stage two will be retailing about 500-700 dollars more. Stage two is basically the same thing as stage one except there is a different piggy back ECU. This will up the boost to about 9PSI. adding about 60-70 horsepower. Again no internal modifications are needed at all and upgrading from stage one to stage two can be done no problem. Stage three you need engine modifications. This is good for about 600 horsepower and it runs about 14PSI. The pistons need to be upgraded (lowering the compression to 8.5:1) as well as the rods and other things in the engine. All kits include dual water-cooled intercoolers. Water cooling is more efficient because water has an extremely high heat capacity which means that it takes longer for it to heat up than air hence making better cooling than air.
Joey: Thanks, for those of us who don’t know, what does the piggyback ECU actually do?
Goran: Well I’m glad you asked, it’s very interesting. Just to brief, Nissan would rather us not replace or flash their ECU because of warranty issues which I’m sure you will ask about later. The piggyback ECU goes on your stock ECU with everything preprogrammed. The stage 1, 2, and 3, have different piggybacks which make the difference in the PSI and you can upgrade between kits for a fee.
Joey: What about the warranty?
Goran: Well we work with an outside company that honors your powertrain warranty. Basically it works like this. If something breaks and the kit was installed by one of our authorized dealership the damage is paid for. There is a 200 dollar deductible and you are insured up to 10,000 dollars. If something breaks basically, you’re covered but you have to pay the first two hundred dollars. The warranty can or cannot be purchased when you purchase the kit. It is an extra 800 dollars but it is defiantly recommended if you don’t plan on making your own modifications. It is also a one time fee. You are insured up to 48,000 miles. This replaces your stock waranty. If you have miles on your car there is a math equation we use to figure out and let you know at what mileage your waranty will expire. For example, if you have 10,000 miles on your car you may be insured up to 55,000 miles depending. It does not expire when your car reaches 48,000 miles because if people had 35,000 miles before they got the supercharger it would be unfair to them for their warantay to expire at 48,000 miles.
Joey: Describe what is included when you say powertrain?
Goran: Well there is a lot of controversy about this Joey. As powertrain we mean anything that creates power. That includes the engine and transmission in the warranty. People say otherwise but do not listen to them, you engine IS INCLUDED!
Joey: Please elaborate on authorized dealerships. What do you mean?
Goran: As we know the new Nissan vehicles are the hardest to tune and modify. Who knows our cars better then Nissan? No one! They made our cars! We are working more on this but currently we have confirmed dealerships (one being right here in New York) that will install your supercharger for their rate. If installed by them, your warranty valid if you don’t up the boost or change anything about the kit?
Joey: On these kits you can up the boost?
Goran: Well you would always be able to change the pulleys and anyone with experience can manipulate the kit. The problem is that everything, even the tuning, will be thrown off. The main way to up the boost is to buy a kit upgrade, IE, if you have stage one, buy the stage two upgrade. If you throw a new pulley or something else you could break something, also, you car would not be in its warranty anymore.
Joey: So your piggyback ECU will upgrade the PSI safely?
Goran: Yes Joey.
Joey: Back on the ECU, what about tuning and its relation to your ECU?
Goran: Well, because we are able to piggyback the stock ECU safely, once the kit is installed no necessary tuning is needed at all. That is the one problem with forced induction on these cars today is tuning. As you know companies have rushed their product and some fuel ratios are inconsistent throughout the RPM bad. Our piggyback ECU, Fuel rails and injectors fix this problem with no tuning needed.
Joey: So once the kit is installed by Nissan we can drive it out of the service department with no tuning at all?
Goran: Yes. This is good because you won’t have to worry about some tuner messing up your car. The Piggyback ECU is pre-tuned perfectly I assure you.
Joey: Now what about Gas mileage? Superchargers, running off of the existing pulleys use a lot more fuel. What are the numbers with your kit?
Goran: Well we have a power bypass system included in the kit. Here is how it works. When your car is at idle speed or under 1800RPM, the bypass kits in. The only power needed by the supercharger is to turn the supercharger turbine but does not generate power. Once 1800RPM kicks in, the power is used. When you’re highway driving and not flooring the car, it also kicks in to save gas. When you need the power, the supercharger utilizes all of it and will use some extra fuel. In total, with normal driving you will lose maybe 1-2 MPG if that, sometimes none at all.
Joey: What about the ease of home install?
Goran: Home installing the kit will void the warranty.
Joey: Can you just briefly explain the different between this kit and the others?
Goran: Well Joey, I’m glad you asked. The kit uses a root type system. We studied the Jaguar XJR to build this kit. The kit replaces the top piece of the engine and no hood or body modification is needed. The top piece of the engine needs to be removed and replaced with our kit. Other then that, it is purely connecting the parts. It is very difficult to remove the top piece of the engine, you need to know what you are doing and we do not recommend attempting the install at home unless you are very experienced with these vehicles.
Joey: Anything else you think we at G35driver should know?
Goran: Yes, payment methods. DreamWorkes is currently working with a credit card company (hopefully be done by May) where you can get a credit card such as a Visa and MasterCard and you can finance our kit through this company. With good credit, you can have a payment plan with interest as little as 8 percent for, not just our superchargers, but any number of our products. If you do not have the money to burn right away.
Joey: Well thanks Goran, I’m sure that everyone will love to hear all of the information.
Goran: Thank you Joey for your concern, I will keep in touch with you and hope to see you at our event.
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And there you have it. I was invited to watch their race teams opening race the end of March to view their 600HP 350Z with their stage 3 supercharger and it and watch it race. I will report from there. If any further info is discovered I will inform you all immediately. I already ordered my kit guys for June!
If someone has a question for DreamWorkes. PM me the question and I will call Goran on his cell phone and post his answer! [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]x2!
Thanks - Joey Avino
There it is by popular demand^^ The well awaited DreamWorkes SuperCharger kit!
I met with Goran from DreamWorkes yesterday and here is what he had to say. Most of your answers will be answered here. Please excuse spelling. I was taking notes as he was talking so my info can be a little weird and my terms can be wrong as well. If it is PLEASE don’t complain! [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Avino (malx) of G35driver.com: Goran, I understand there is much hype and concern for this kit, give me a brief description of it and its options.
Goran of DreamWorkes: Well Joey, for one, the stage one kit is almost finished for the g35 and will be released the end of March we hope. As of now, the first 150 kits are already sold and we will be releasing 50 of them 2 months from then.
Joey: Goran, I understand you guys have three different kits, please explain them.
Goran: Well… Stage one is coming out soon. Stage one will is good for anywhere in between 400-410 horsepower on a stock coupe running our preset 6PSI. It comes with a piggyback ECU, fuel injectors, upgraded fuel rails, and other valves and such. The stage one retails for about 6,200 dollars and stage two will be retailing about 500-700 dollars more. Stage two is basically the same thing as stage one except there is a different piggy back ECU. This will up the boost to about 9PSI. adding about 60-70 horsepower. Again no internal modifications are needed at all and upgrading from stage one to stage two can be done no problem. Stage three you need engine modifications. This is good for about 600 horsepower and it runs about 14PSI. The pistons need to be upgraded (lowering the compression to 8.5:1) as well as the rods and other things in the engine. All kits include dual water-cooled intercoolers. Water cooling is more efficient because water has an extremely high heat capacity which means that it takes longer for it to heat up than air hence making better cooling than air.
Joey: Thanks, for those of us who don’t know, what does the piggyback ECU actually do?
Goran: Well I’m glad you asked, it’s very interesting. Just to brief, Nissan would rather us not replace or flash their ECU because of warranty issues which I’m sure you will ask about later. The piggyback ECU goes on your stock ECU with everything preprogrammed. The stage 1, 2, and 3, have different piggybacks which make the difference in the PSI and you can upgrade between kits for a fee.
Joey: What about the warranty?
Goran: Well we work with an outside company that honors your powertrain warranty. Basically it works like this. If something breaks and the kit was installed by one of our authorized dealership the damage is paid for. There is a 200 dollar deductible and you are insured up to 10,000 dollars. If something breaks basically, you’re covered but you have to pay the first two hundred dollars. The warranty can or cannot be purchased when you purchase the kit. It is an extra 800 dollars but it is defiantly recommended if you don’t plan on making your own modifications. It is also a one time fee. You are insured up to 48,000 miles. This replaces your stock waranty. If you have miles on your car there is a math equation we use to figure out and let you know at what mileage your waranty will expire. For example, if you have 10,000 miles on your car you may be insured up to 55,000 miles depending. It does not expire when your car reaches 48,000 miles because if people had 35,000 miles before they got the supercharger it would be unfair to them for their warantay to expire at 48,000 miles.
Joey: Describe what is included when you say powertrain?
Goran: Well there is a lot of controversy about this Joey. As powertrain we mean anything that creates power. That includes the engine and transmission in the warranty. People say otherwise but do not listen to them, you engine IS INCLUDED!
Joey: Please elaborate on authorized dealerships. What do you mean?
Goran: As we know the new Nissan vehicles are the hardest to tune and modify. Who knows our cars better then Nissan? No one! They made our cars! We are working more on this but currently we have confirmed dealerships (one being right here in New York) that will install your supercharger for their rate. If installed by them, your warranty valid if you don’t up the boost or change anything about the kit?
Joey: On these kits you can up the boost?
Goran: Well you would always be able to change the pulleys and anyone with experience can manipulate the kit. The problem is that everything, even the tuning, will be thrown off. The main way to up the boost is to buy a kit upgrade, IE, if you have stage one, buy the stage two upgrade. If you throw a new pulley or something else you could break something, also, you car would not be in its warranty anymore.
Joey: So your piggyback ECU will upgrade the PSI safely?
Goran: Yes Joey.
Joey: Back on the ECU, what about tuning and its relation to your ECU?
Goran: Well, because we are able to piggyback the stock ECU safely, once the kit is installed no necessary tuning is needed at all. That is the one problem with forced induction on these cars today is tuning. As you know companies have rushed their product and some fuel ratios are inconsistent throughout the RPM bad. Our piggyback ECU, Fuel rails and injectors fix this problem with no tuning needed.
Joey: So once the kit is installed by Nissan we can drive it out of the service department with no tuning at all?
Goran: Yes. This is good because you won’t have to worry about some tuner messing up your car. The Piggyback ECU is pre-tuned perfectly I assure you.
Joey: Now what about Gas mileage? Superchargers, running off of the existing pulleys use a lot more fuel. What are the numbers with your kit?
Goran: Well we have a power bypass system included in the kit. Here is how it works. When your car is at idle speed or under 1800RPM, the bypass kits in. The only power needed by the supercharger is to turn the supercharger turbine but does not generate power. Once 1800RPM kicks in, the power is used. When you’re highway driving and not flooring the car, it also kicks in to save gas. When you need the power, the supercharger utilizes all of it and will use some extra fuel. In total, with normal driving you will lose maybe 1-2 MPG if that, sometimes none at all.
Joey: What about the ease of home install?
Goran: Home installing the kit will void the warranty.
Joey: Can you just briefly explain the different between this kit and the others?
Goran: Well Joey, I’m glad you asked. The kit uses a root type system. We studied the Jaguar XJR to build this kit. The kit replaces the top piece of the engine and no hood or body modification is needed. The top piece of the engine needs to be removed and replaced with our kit. Other then that, it is purely connecting the parts. It is very difficult to remove the top piece of the engine, you need to know what you are doing and we do not recommend attempting the install at home unless you are very experienced with these vehicles.
Joey: Anything else you think we at G35driver should know?
Goran: Yes, payment methods. DreamWorkes is currently working with a credit card company (hopefully be done by May) where you can get a credit card such as a Visa and MasterCard and you can finance our kit through this company. With good credit, you can have a payment plan with interest as little as 8 percent for, not just our superchargers, but any number of our products. If you do not have the money to burn right away.
Joey: Well thanks Goran, I’m sure that everyone will love to hear all of the information.
Goran: Thank you Joey for your concern, I will keep in touch with you and hope to see you at our event.
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And there you have it. I was invited to watch their race teams opening race the end of March to view their 600HP 350Z with their stage 3 supercharger and it and watch it race. I will report from there. If any further info is discovered I will inform you all immediately. I already ordered my kit guys for June!
If someone has a question for DreamWorkes. PM me the question and I will call Goran on his cell phone and post his answer! [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]x2!
Thanks - Joey Avino
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Sounds good. Thanks for your efforts and info. sounds like a system I would be interested in based on the responses to your questions. Godspeed on your purchase, I can't afford it yet, but will keep abreast of your experience with this. Really looking forward to this.
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HAHA Big! I just want to thank you guys again and in advance for reading it all. It looks like the best road to go. I will know when I meet with the President of DreamWorkes at the end of the month. Don't worry, I will report like an anchor man! [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Thanks - Joey Avino
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"Goran of DreamWorkes: Well Joey, for one, the stage one kit is almost finished for the g35 and will be released the end of March we hope. As of now, the first 150 kits are already sold and we will be releasing 50 of them 2 months from then."
What does that mean? They are releasing the kit, but only a few will be sold two months later? When can I buy a kit is the question.
What does that mean? They are releasing the kit, but only a few will be sold two months later? When can I buy a kit is the question.
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Well they are only putting out 200 before June and 150 of them are sold. 50 of them will be released mid April to early May. If one of the people that bought the kit is a performance shop then you can but it from them. Otherwise you can order a kit from someplace but you won't get it until later. That's what he told me so I don't know anything else.
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So, did you actually see a 'real' kit? All of these renderings are pushing people back a bit. After someone verifies there is a real kit out there, I bet people would be even more optimistic!!
When you are going tosee the car race, are others allowed to come along? I am out on the island and would love to see this thing in person. I know that all the guys/gals over on my350z.com would love to see or at least hear from someone who has seen the kit in person!
http://usastreetracing.com/images/vi...aos2teaser.wmv
DOWNLOAD THE TEASER VIDEO BY CLICKING ON THE LINK
When you are going tosee the car race, are others allowed to come along? I am out on the island and would love to see this thing in person. I know that all the guys/gals over on my350z.com would love to see or at least hear from someone who has seen the kit in person!
http://usastreetracing.com/images/vi...aos2teaser.wmv
DOWNLOAD THE TEASER VIDEO BY CLICKING ON THE LINK
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Dreamworkes is located in the bronx ( I think) but they are working closely with a partner in California. You can probably find their address from their website @ http://www.dreamworkesracing.com. I have displayed pics of a polished (the same pic above) and an unpolished version (note: both were pics not taken in a car so not sure if its a working demo or not but nonetheless they have a mold). You can find the pics under the topic thread: First pics of Dreamworkes Supercharger!
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"Did you ever know that you're my heeeeeerrrooooooo?!"
haha Good job Malx! This supercharger is sounding better and better. I might actually buy this thing. I've thought about the others but none too seriously. The Dreamworks setup though...all that power with a warranty that actually covers the engine and tranny?!?! It's definitely time to start taking this kit seriously. I hope there will be a certified installer here in AZ.
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haha Good job Malx! This supercharger is sounding better and better. I might actually buy this thing. I've thought about the others but none too seriously. The Dreamworks setup though...all that power with a warranty that actually covers the engine and tranny?!?! It's definitely time to start taking this kit seriously. I hope there will be a certified installer here in AZ.
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One more question on this that might be important regarding tuning. There is a sedan on Freshalloy.com (Zimbo) that got the Vortech installed. The tuning was set up out of the box for a 350z. The car ran very rich on that tuning so they retuned the splitsecond box to make it run well on the sedan. All was good.
Another member went to the same shop to get the vortech kit installed on his coupe (Dollar99). They installed the same tuning that the sedan used and his car sputtered and lots of black smoke came out of the exhaust.
Now the question is, the sedan would not run on the 350z tuning, the coupe would not run on the 350z OR the sedan tuning, yet they all have the same engines and most likely slight differences in tuning if any at all. How does DreamWorkes plan on taking care of this problem? The kit is said to be made for the G35 and says nothing about differences between coupe and sedan. Obviously there are some pretty big differences if a coupe would hardly even run on a sedan's tuning OR a 350z tuning!!!
Also, I assume everyone knows that there is no way to make an ideal plug and play system. If you want your car to run right, you have to tune each car individually, there is no way around that.
If you wouldn't mind asking Dreamworkes about this, I think it would really be helpful!!!
Thanks for all the research!!!
http://usastreetracing.com/images/vi...aos2teaser.wmv
DOWNLOAD THE TEASER VIDEO BY CLICKING ON THE LINK
Another member went to the same shop to get the vortech kit installed on his coupe (Dollar99). They installed the same tuning that the sedan used and his car sputtered and lots of black smoke came out of the exhaust.
Now the question is, the sedan would not run on the 350z tuning, the coupe would not run on the 350z OR the sedan tuning, yet they all have the same engines and most likely slight differences in tuning if any at all. How does DreamWorkes plan on taking care of this problem? The kit is said to be made for the G35 and says nothing about differences between coupe and sedan. Obviously there are some pretty big differences if a coupe would hardly even run on a sedan's tuning OR a 350z tuning!!!
Also, I assume everyone knows that there is no way to make an ideal plug and play system. If you want your car to run right, you have to tune each car individually, there is no way around that.
If you wouldn't mind asking Dreamworkes about this, I think it would really be helpful!!!
Thanks for all the research!!!
http://usastreetracing.com/images/vi...aos2teaser.wmv
DOWNLOAD THE TEASER VIDEO BY CLICKING ON THE LINK
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Well each kit is specifically for the car. There is a kit for the coupe, Z, and I'm not sure about the sedan, I have to ask. Also their ECU is piggyback which means that no reprograming is needed but the ECU they make adjusts the car to compensate for the forced induction. Which means, if the car is running too lean, the piggyback will adjust and auto-tune the car to an extent. This is what Gordan said but I will have him elaborate on that and the issue of the Sedan on Monday when I call him.
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Also you have to remember that the DreamWorkes kit comes with Fuel injectors and Fuel rails. The vortech does not which is why more tuneing is needed to adjust the Air/Fuel ratios.
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