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Old May 21, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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start with your budget and call one of the vendors. gtm, forged, mrc, to name a few. your budget is the most important. you could want a built tt but only have a stock motor s/c budget, you know?
 
Old May 21, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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I have an completely stock 03..6speed...what does everyone recomend supercharging, single turbo, or twin turbo. And anyone that is familiar with the kits, what else would I need besides what is included. How reliable is each one...Thanx...
depends on the kit that you get. I think that the powerlab full single turbo kit and any of the JWT TT kits are the only "full kits" on the market, as far as turbo's are concerned. For SC setups you should be fine with whatever route you choose. You will however also need at minimum gauges and a tune. Prepare to spend major money on this too.
 
Old May 21, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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start with your budget and call one of the vendors. gtm, forged, mrc, to name a few. your budget is the most important. you could want a built tt but only have a stock motor s/c budget, you know?
I wouldn't call either GTM or Forged personally. Their prices are way too high and they recommend a ton of crap you really don't need. both further hawk HKS products hard core even though they aren't necessarily in the customer's interests or cost effective.
 
Old May 21, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Holy old thread?!
 
Old May 21, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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I wouldn't call either GTM or Forged personally. Their prices are way too high and they recommend a ton of crap you really don't need. both further hawk HKS products hard core even though they aren't necessarily in the customer's interests or cost effective.
their prices aren't too bad. i've called Forged, GTM, SFR, RA, and PF, and their prices are all very competitive.

As for hawking HKS...maybe they do. But it's also a quality product, and many have upgraded to VPros down the line, or even used it on stock builds b/c they know what a good EMS would do.

Every shop will push a particular kit, mostly due to their familiarity with the kit. and as you said, they will RECOMMEND a ton of crap...doesn't mean the customer has to purchase it.
 
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Lawy'dU is just a GTM and Forged hater. Don't pay any attention to him.
 
Old May 22, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Lawy'dU is just a GTM and Forged hater. Don't pay any attention to him.
+1. He's a hater in general and also a RA nuthugger and often gives incorrect advice.
 
Old May 22, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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Well, I don't have a problem with him being an RA fanboy. Showing support for your shop of choice is not a bad thing. Hell, I am often called a GTM "nutthugger" or "fanboy." And that's fine because I am. GTM has been great to me and I will always recommend them and send them business. The problem with Lawy'dU (besides the fact that most of the advice that he gives is wrong) is that he goes out of his way to bad mouth other shops. Why?? Having dealt with GTM several times, I can tell you that he is 100% wrong with the BS that he likes to spew. GTM doesn't push people to get things that they don't need. They give you SEVERAL options and let you pick which route to go. I was never pressured to get anything from them at all. Sam and Nick @ GTM laid out all of my options and I picked the one that suited me best for what I wanted. Never did they ever try to get me to do something that I didn't want. I went to them with a plan and they hooked it up. Plain and simple. Are they pricey? Yes. Is there a long wait at times? Yes. If you ever go to their shop and see how many cars are being worked on, you will know why there is a wait. The list of cars waiting to be worked on is long. Why do you think that is??
 
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^^I agree 100%. I chose GTM for my build over all other shops b/c of Sam's expertise and the quality work they perform. Never once have I felt pressure by Sam; I have always felt I am in good hands.

Many times, Lawdy'u has said GTM are "fools" and are hawking HKS S/C kits to customer's detriment. Which is an absolutely ridiculous statement. The kits sell themselves. GTM is a big shop with a lot of business, they don't need to "hawk" anything. Also there prices are very fair imo and their recommendations sound. It is up to the customer to decide what he/she wished to purchase and who he/she wants to do the work.

The reason why I bring up RA, is b/c I find it funny that he touts their shop and techs as supreme when it is widely known that there have been arguably shady dealings done by RA and its former VRT employees.

I find it disturbing that he bashes GTM and Forged almost every post and continues to spew bs and incorrect information on this forum and 350z.
 
Old May 22, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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That's precisely why I tell people to just ignore Lawy'dU. 99.999% of the time he's just trolling around looking for any opportunity to bad mouth other shops, especially GTM and FP.
 
Old May 22, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnylaw
+1. He's a hater in general and also a RA nuthugger and often gives incorrect advice.
+1 .......

Originally Posted by Hexxum001
That's precisely why I tell people to just ignore Lawy'dU. 99.999% of the time he's just trolling around looking for any opportunity to bad mouth other shops, especially GTM and FP.
+1 again..... A major hater....I guess he is just pissed off that he did not get any hp gains from the RA stickers
 
Old May 22, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by caelric
I love these threads! The amount of speculation, guesses, mis-information, and plain ignorance is great.

A little searching would answers your questions, there, original poster.

Also recommend searching (not posting!) on the F/I section of the my350z.com forums
Yup....mean bunch over there...
 
Old May 22, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnylaw
^^I agree 100%. I chose GTM for my build over all other shops b/c of Sam's expertise and the quality work they perform. Never once have I felt pressure by Sam; I have always felt I am in good hands.

Many times, Lawdy'u has said GTM are "fools" and are hawking HKS S/C kits to customer's detriment. Which is an absolutely ridiculous statement. The kits sell themselves. GTM is a big shop with a lot of business, they don't need to "hawk" anything. Also there prices are very fair imo and their recommendations sound. It is up to the customer to decide what he/she wished to purchase and who he/she wants to do the work.
Yeah, no. GTM does good work, but if you haven't heard about shaddy dealings you haven't been talking to enough GTM customers. LMAO at you.

It is pretty widely known how forged and GTM hawk HKS products and I've seen GTM recommend tons of the HKS superchargers because GTM has to sell $10,000 of HKS products to remain as a pro dealer. There are even a few guys on the forum that have had goals of 500 whp and were recommended this SC. One had GTM install first a procharger, and unhappy with the power was convinced to go the HKS supercharger route (there will be no power difference between the two).

Further, I don't know if you were at the Stillen meet but there was a guy with a 500 whp G35 sedan that was/and is very unhappy with GTM. GTM charged this guy for tons and tons of BS charges (including a $250 transmission flush). In the end this guy had a bill of $60k and because of the bs charges he refused to pay. I'm anxious to see what happens as a result of all of this.

Originally Posted by jonnylaw
The reason why I bring up RA, is b/c I find it funny that he touts their shop and techs as supreme when it is widely known that there have been arguably shady dealings done by RA and its former VRT employees.
Yeah, I don't tout RA like it is the supreme. I chose to help get the word out since this forum has horrendously fukked over Scott for no reason. VRT is NOT Relentless you ignorant moron. Scott was fukked over more than anyone by VRT. Nobody has ever been unhappy with Scott or Relentless. Everything you see on the forums about him are nothing more that stupid FI section idiots and Sam and Sharif, pissed off because Scott is telling customers they don't need some of the crap that GTM and Forged push on their customers. A prime example is the whole fuel return system debate on my350z which Scott claimed to be unnecessary and everybody including GTM and Forged harassed him for. Low and behold about a month back GTM orders 10ish of the same split second boxes that Scott said negated the need for a fuel return system lol.

I also strongly support AAM since I've done quite a bit of business with them and the forum guys constantly hate on them as well on the forums. All in all, I try to help people out here, but when I find shady people I am upfront about pointing them out.

Originally Posted by jonnylaw
I find it disturbing that he bashes GTM and Forged almost every post and continues to spew bs and incorrect information on this forum and 350z.
I wouldn't purposefuly slander someone on the forums. Since, I have information from other customers I can point out as many problems they have had with these shops as I want, since those are in fact, FACTS and opinions from past customers.

I find it disturbing that you try to join every FI section conversation when I see you get repeatedly slapped around on the my350z board. The last one was of false gains by the Cosworth plenum that apparently "Cosworth" themselves claimed. Z1 auto cleared this up. All in all you are just a GTM fan boy who knows very little, and frankly I couldn't are less what you think about me lol.


Originally Posted by XKR
+1 again..... A major hater....I guess he is just pissed off that he did not get any hp gains from the RA stickers
I do not have RA stickers , and wouldn't put any on my car unless I was getting paid to.

P.s. "Dr. Philthy" is one of the biggest a$$holes on the forum. Talk about a fanboy and an idiot.

Originally Posted by XKR
Yup....mean bunch over there...
If you haven't figured it out, they aren't mean. They just get the same questions all the time that they have already answered 1000 times over. G35driver is not where you go for FI advice or questions.

Originally Posted by Hexxum001
That's precisely why I tell people to just ignore Lawy'dU. 99.999% of the time he's just trolling around looking for any opportunity to bad mouth other shops, especially GTM and FP.
There are other, better shops than those on the forums kids. You guys are the real nuthuggers.

I don't just talk crap about FP and GTM, and have left positive feed back on most of their threads.

P.S. If in fact all I do is talk crap about FP and GTM, well you guys are giving me plenty of opportunity to do such with your responses lol. I've said my peice, and couldn't care less about whatever you guys have to say. It will be your loss in the end, not mine.
 

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Who are you calling a kid, kid?? All I have to say is, show some proof of these "shady" dealings or STFU. Once again, another hater using hearsay to back up the BS that he posts about GTM. You are not the first "kid." George challenged a previous hater to start a thread with proof of GTM's supposed "shady" dealings that he had heard about and guess what, that poster STFU and went away. And no, he was not banned, he just had nothing to back himself up. You are no different. You have never dealt with GTM, yet you are an "expert" (term used very loosely) as to their business practices. Like I said, put up or STFU. You continuously make an a$$ of yourself on here and on my350z.com which is why you are a joke. And you really shouldn't talk about how little another poster knows . . . . kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.
 
Old May 22, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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LMAO at you.

VRT is NOT Relentless you ignorant moron.

I wouldn't purposefuly slander someone on the forums. Since, I have information from other customers I can point out as many problems they have had with these shops as I want, since those are in fact, FACTS and opinions from past customers.

I find it disturbing that you try to join every FI section conversation when I see you get repeatedly slapped around on the my350z board. The last one was of false gains by the Cosworth plenum that apparently "Cosworth" themselves claimed. Z1 auto cleared this up. All in all you are just a GTM fan boy who knows very little, and frankly I couldn't are less what you think about me lol.
First off, go f*k Yourself. U are an ignorant pos that continually gives misleading, incomplete, and/or wholly inaccurate information on these boards.

YOU are the one that get continually slammed on the forums because of your dumb*ss comments and constant bashing of GTM and Forged.

Example:

Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII


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the irony, that you say that from your background suporting vrt and associates

keep dreaming trying to discredit the testing and data presented by injected if you want, their track record trhough the years with product development, testing, customer service proves them well.
http://my350z.com/forum/showpost.php...1&postcount=62

STFU on the Cosworth--You claimed SSV gives more gains. More b.s from you. I actually tested the Cos vs. the MD setup, posted pictures and dynos and helped the community out WAY more than your stupid ghey *** Steering wheel and bs paddle thread or any other of your moronic comments.

And you continue to slander GTM and Forged whenever you get an opportunity. You are the definition of a troll.

Here's a sample of you bs babble:

Originally Posted by Lawy'dU
wtf? turbo G/Z's take a big risk in any state. There are tons in CA that are turbo you aren't one of the "few" lol.

HKS makes great stuff but this doesn't even have the potential of the vortech kit, which is really the only viable substitute other than turbo. Over priced and will undoubtably be whored out by the pro-dealers and there will probably be a lot of disapointed people with it because of that.
Originally Posted by Lawy'dU
Really? On 500 whp cars they are gaining only about 13 whp with this on my350z. The SSV (even though it is heavily bashed) makes more power than this on high boost applications. Also, many are having problems with keeping the thing properly sealed and not leaking.

I still love this setup though.
Originally Posted by Lawy'dU
And. there is nothing to refute that this plenum has indeed flopped. There haven't been conclusive tests dispositive of this plenum being any different from the SSV. You ricers will believe anything the sponsors here tell you lol.
Originally Posted by Lawy'dU
why? It's still going to produce very little power. You should have gone TT and not taken GTM's advice on the HKS Supercharger. Damn these fools are hawking those like crazy.
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3. Who said maintenance would be astronomical for the GT-R compared to the Z? This isn't a super exotic car that requires engine-out service for any small repair or replacement.
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I wouldn't call either GTM or Forged personally. Their prices are way too high and they recommend a ton of crap you really don't need. both further hawk HKS products hard core even though they aren't necessarily in the customer's interests or cost effective.
And there's plenty more where this came from...

Yea, mook, I know that RA is not VRT. BUT...Scott was an employee of VRT and worked there, knowing that shady sh*t was going on. I don't buy the whole "I was following orders bit". I may not know the whole story, but I know enough, including some very unhappy customers of RA, to know to stay away.

Hmm. Wonder why RA is not a sponsor on these boards anymore, but GTM and Forged continue to provide the forums with valuable info and fufill customers expectations.

And if you didn't care what I think, Y are your panties in a bunch? Y don't u put me on ur ignore list?

In closing, this is you:

 

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