Advice/Tips needed on Vortech setup
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Advice/Tips needed on Vortech setup
Hi all,
So here I am getting ready to pull the trigger on going FI. After reading many of the informative threads I've decided on going with a Vortech as it is more reliable for my 2004 5AT coupe. With that in mind I have my list of the things i'm going to purchase. If you could please let me know your opinion/advice on this it would be greatly appreciated!
Power Goals: 400whp/350-400tq
Pre-install:
GTM VB Upgrade
GTM Torque Converter - Not really needed as told by Nick at GTM as it's my DD and i won't be launching all that much
Potential Vortech Setup:
"Tuner Kit"
Pre-tapped Oil Pan - ? (dunno which to go with here)
3.12 Pulley (eventually...I want to try the stock 3.33 to ensure nothing is wrong with the blower)
Deastchworks 440 injectors
Walbro 255lhp fuel pump
EMU - ? (I'm thinking eManage Ultimate)
Reflash - ? (Kinda confused here)
So here I am getting ready to pull the trigger on going FI. After reading many of the informative threads I've decided on going with a Vortech as it is more reliable for my 2004 5AT coupe. With that in mind I have my list of the things i'm going to purchase. If you could please let me know your opinion/advice on this it would be greatly appreciated!
Power Goals: 400whp/350-400tq
Pre-install:
GTM VB Upgrade
GTM Torque Converter - Not really needed as told by Nick at GTM as it's my DD and i won't be launching all that much
Potential Vortech Setup:
"Tuner Kit"
Pre-tapped Oil Pan - ? (dunno which to go with here)
3.12 Pulley (eventually...I want to try the stock 3.33 to ensure nothing is wrong with the blower)
Deastchworks 440 injectors
Walbro 255lhp fuel pump
EMU - ? (I'm thinking eManage Ultimate)
Reflash - ? (Kinda confused here)
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e-manage ultimate is a NO, I don't even think GTM will tune that if you go there. Flash, it's the SS Box flash that comes with the Vortech kit, in my opinion get a HKS Fcon IS or a Utec or something, but the out of the box flash will work also, not sure if it comes with the tuner it though. Torque converter is a good investment for its something down the road you probably have to do for your 5AT, especially if you upgrade your power, but then again its up to you. Most certainly get a External Tranny Cooler because your an Automatic also. Who are you planning to have do the install and tune? Seeing you're from H-town.
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Originally Posted by G35Rider92649
e-manage ultimate is a NO, I don't even think GTM will tune that if you go there. Flash, it's the SS Box flash that comes with the Vortech kit, in my opinion get a HKS Fcon IS or a Utec or something, but the out of the box flash will work also, not sure if it comes with the tuner it though. Torque converter is a good investment for its something down the road you probably have to do for your 5AT, especially if you upgrade your power, but then again its up to you. Most certainly get a External Tranny Cooler because your an Automatic also. Who are you planning to have do the install and tune? Seeing you're from H-town.
Originally Posted by booger
Dont expect as much whp as the MT6 cars , on a Dynojet expect 360whp or so with 9psi . Dont try to hard or spend tons of cash trying to get a ton of hp out of it . The AT5 isnt going to produce it on the stock kit
I spoke to Vortech and they stated "depending on the tuner" you can push my numbers with my setup. Do i believe them you ask? Ehh...i'm a skeptic so i dunno not sure. BUT...as long as i'm faster than a G37 i'm good! HAHAH
Thanks guys for the replies keep them coming!
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Like they have said you wont see 400whp with this setup. I have been chasing that number for years now. I say go with bigger injectors other than 440cc, a least 550cc. Go with the JWT oil pan and tap your oil block for the return. Start with the 3.12 pulley, 3.33 will honestly dissapoint you, maybe even make you cry.... TRUST me. Utec or the HKS will do good on your car, do not go Greddy!!!
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Originally Posted by SKYLINE_GT
Like they have said you wont see 400whp with this setup. I have been chasing that number for years now. I say go with bigger injectors other than 440cc, a least 550cc. Go with the JWT oil pan and tap your oil block for the return. Start with the 3.12 pulley, 3.33 will honestly dissapoint you, maybe even make you cry.... TRUST me. Utec or the HKS will do good on your car, do not go Greddy!!!
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Greddy is the most cheapest on the market you can buy for an EMS, its a piece of shiet and it's worthless, pisses off all tuners and tuners have to work around it to get it to work correctly, and even then it always has hiccups and glitches, switching from a Greddy to a better system you would feel a big difference, so might as well do it right the first time. SGP i have heard many horror stories about them so I don't know, of course I heard good things too, but more bad stories. I see many cars from Texas at GTM, from Subis to Zs and Gs so that speaks for it self. Get the 550cc, I'm running 550cc Power Enterprise Injectors no problem, making 375.2whp and 336.9tq on a dynojet. 5AT, getting a Tranny Cooler is a must, VB Upgrade also, TQ Converter is an option but I'd do it if you got the money.
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stay away from SGP, too many horror stories for me to trust them now
def ditch the emanage ultimate, its crap
haltech is baller but a utec is good and cheap
550cc injectors should do the trick
a good tuner should get you 370rwhp and 330ft-lbs
mike (express) just left performance factory w/ those numbers
sick work!
def ditch the emanage ultimate, its crap
haltech is baller but a utec is good and cheap
550cc injectors should do the trick
a good tuner should get you 370rwhp and 330ft-lbs
mike (express) just left performance factory w/ those numbers
sick work!
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Wow...that's interesting...Being a local i've heard the horror stories too but i'm surprised folks out on the east and west coast have heard it too...Wow! In that respect I won't judge them by the stories but I do get your point and will be leery.
And the Haltech is baller! It was suggested to me by Engine Logics. (another local shop) as that is what they tune mainly and are very good tuners. I'm still researching on the UTEC I've read some people have had issues with it though (i'll do more research thouhg) and moved to the Haltech.
G35Rider - I wish i could put send my car there for tuning but my G is my daily so that would be a bit of a predicament.
Express - Huh? Boost?
And the Haltech is baller! It was suggested to me by Engine Logics. (another local shop) as that is what they tune mainly and are very good tuners. I'm still researching on the UTEC I've read some people have had issues with it though (i'll do more research thouhg) and moved to the Haltech.
G35Rider - I wish i could put send my car there for tuning but my G is my daily so that would be a bit of a predicament.
Express - Huh? Boost?
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Originally Posted by Infinite1
Wow...that's interesting...Being a local i've heard the horror stories too but i'm surprised folks out on the east and west coast have heard it too...Wow! In that respect I won't judge them by the stories but I do get your point and will be leery.
And the Haltech is baller! It was suggested to me by Engine Logics. (another local shop) as that is what they tune mainly and are very good tuners. I'm still researching on the UTEC I've read some people have had issues with it though (i'll do more research thouhg) and moved to the Haltech.
G35Rider - I wish i could put send my car there for tuning but my G is my daily so that would be a bit of a predicament.
Express - Huh? Boost?
And the Haltech is baller! It was suggested to me by Engine Logics. (another local shop) as that is what they tune mainly and are very good tuners. I'm still researching on the UTEC I've read some people have had issues with it though (i'll do more research thouhg) and moved to the Haltech.
G35Rider - I wish i could put send my car there for tuning but my G is my daily so that would be a bit of a predicament.
Express - Huh? Boost?
and dont worry bout mike, he's simple minded
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