I agree, I think your post was fair and accurate. I wish I could justify the additional $3500 for the TT setup!

 

Exactly. That's why I said if money wasn't an object, go TT. Hey Brian, did you already receive your APS kit or you're still waiting?

 

I pick up wrenches not magazines buddy..I don't pick up magazines because all that is in there is RICE and more RICE. Id rather read real books and actually learn something...I plan on designing my own turbo kit in the near future to have well over 650 WHP... and still daily driven. Do a TT if you want to run 13s...Im done talking about this, it is obvious that you know nothing about Turbo's so its pointless to try to have a conversation with you about it.

 

Wow, why the hostility? It was just KjbAlto's opinion.

 

It will be here later this week or next. I'm having it installed this month by GRD in Illinois, the host of the group buy.

 

Personally I say twins are the way to go with the G35 and 350Z, I know that the single is more efficient but go look at the dyno graphs and also the plumbing for the single vs. twins. You're using stock headers on the single plus the exhaust has to flow down the headers and over the transmission on the passenger side for the APS single..

Not to say the single is not a good choice because it is..but on a V engine it doesnt matter how you cut it.. the twins will spool faster. Anyone that disagrees bring a single turbo G35..I have the twin turbo kit and we can make a fair comparison.

 

I can't stand people who can't just say their opinions instead of insulting people. Nightmare, you are acting like a complete jerk. I am stating my opinion, which also seems to be the opinion of most, if not everybody on the my350z board. Those people are very knowledgeable and have been experimenting with turbos on the 350z for 2 or more years already. There are people running in the high 11's with the APS TT already. Good luck on your custom single turbo. If you're shooting for 650whp and think you're still going ot have a daily driver you are once again showing your ignorance. I'm done responding to your dumb remarks here. Insult me all you want. To the rest of the people reading this, I apologize. Please ignore this guy.

 

Well, some people just get all bent out of shape when you disagree with them. Earlier someone mentioned having a biturbo setup which is a smaller turbo along with a larger one. I believe it is called a Sequential Setup where the small one would spool up during the low end and eventually the larger one would spool up to pick up the rest of the high end, thus eliminating most, not all, but most of the lag.

I want it for a daily driven car, I do not plan on dragging, drifting, or tracking the car. I simply want the extra "oomph" when I take the car out to play. The best part is scarin' the hell out of M3's especially since those cars cost $50K+. Getting a good laugh or two from seeing their faces after you pull on them like a mad man: Priceless!!!

 

Buh-bye. Don't let the door smack you on your *** on the way out.

Obviously an ill-informed opinion.
Have a nice day.
Dave

 

Well let me contribute to this thread since I have ridden/driven both a TT car and a Single Turbo car (what I own).... I must say that for those who think lag is a problem well its not... I have the Turbonetics Single turbo kit and if lag means hitting full 8 PSI at 3200 well then I guess thats lag. The APS kit claims to do it at 2500 and their TT kit that I have seen does it about there as well. The Greddy kits are hitting full boost right about 3000 RPMS. Trust me when I tell you the difference in starting boost and hitting full boost is very different. The Turbonetics kit starts building boost as early as 2100 RPMs. I have yet to have on person call my car laggy and this is coming from people who have driven small ball bearing turbos that spool QUICK. The power delivery with the singles is the same or better then the TT. My kit makes 386 RWHP and 367 ft/lb per my latest dyno. That was at 11:1 AFR on 91 octane gas.. Thats better numbers then Greddy, PE, Stillen, Vortech, ATI out of the box. Its also the same as the APS single kit. And the APS single kit runs an extra .5 PSI on their car. The power delivery is VERY linear with my car and the car drives amazingly well off boost. But hey you don't have to take my word for it....FYI Turbonetics is completing all the final work for the G35 kit this week. I should have pics for you early next week. One nice feature about the Turbonetics kit for the G35 is that they are going to be including a pair of slimline high CFM fans mounted to the front of the intercooler to provdie adequate air flow across it for those with a stock front bumper. The fans will run slowly while the car is off boost and are virutally in audible. They have a boost activated switch which will kick them into high mode when on boost. A great feature along with that is if you have an aftermarket bumper and opening for the intercooler the intercooler core can be reversed and the fans removed so that they no longer are used and the mount for them is not seen. That way you get the best of both worlds. You can keep your stock bumper if you want and not worry about heat soak or airflow across the intercooler or have a aftermarket bumper installed and use the outside air to cool the intercooler. And to answer the question that I'm sure will be asked yes the fans flow enough CFM to cool the charge. Turbonetics tested this to determine that amount of CFM needed to properly cool the charge and prevent heatsoak and found fans that would push it...More details coming soon. You can PM me if I didn't answer something you had a question about.

 

Thanks for the fair review Miaplaya. I definitely would of considered the Turbonetics ST if I hadn't been enticed by the APS ST group buy.

 

That was a great consumer review thanks for your input.

 

Since it is a V6, twins will be more efficient for a couple reasons. First there is the manifold heat. All that long plumbing's heat is lost in the travel to the single. If you had it ceramic coated(I had my tt's done this way all the way to the past the test pipes) and wrapped then this is no longer an issue. Since you know alot about turbos then you know that this heat helps in spooling. Another problem with the single systems is the unequal length. This can contribute to compressor surge. I will have a 600whp car soon(my motor comes in on Friday) and I think I'll be faster than 13 in the quarter. Actually come to think about their aren't any singles with more than 500whp(one reason is they are so new to the market). Welcome to the FI forum.

 

I understand this, but if there is a will there is a way. I was actually looking in my engine bay last night and taking measurements and such. I think it is going to be tough to get it in there but I will figure something out. I know that the problem is going to be making the runners equal length, and getting to turbo close enough to the energy source to spool it under 3500 RPMS. I looked at the APS single T pictures and it concerns me that the turbo is at the same level as the oil pan. I could see some oil return issues there IE Smoking, Blowing seals. If i make the runners on the manifold long im going to loose a lot of energy, but if I leave them short they will be uneven. You should go 10s with 600whp easy.. I think this car can run 13s stock actually, but I dunno if anyone has done it.

 

Hey Brian let me know when you drop off your car at GRD, i wanna come check it out. Im also thinking about getting the APS TT from them and installed and tuned. They have a 350z with APS TT, stock internals with 509hp to the wheels for over a year now. amazing. they must be good at tuning.