Well on setups with that much offset, i'd assume most would run into problems with rubbing. Obviously camber helps prevent this as well as tire stretching, and fender rolling.

My question i guess is at what point are those solutions not enough? How far can you push the envelope before its no longer drivable and its more for show? For example, you obviously dont drive at your dropped height. Its more for looks, sexy looks might i add. But nonetheless, show. But are those z's drivable or are they on bags as well? What voodoo magic lol enables them to drive at those clearances?

 

it's not for everyone, those for whom it's not for, don't understand

obviously driving that low with that setup is being done DAILY so dunno what the confusion is

 

I can't believe you drive that thing everyday haha soo sick.

 

Well every car is different as far is how much is too much. and it all depends on the person and the sacrifices they are willing to make. so there's not real set answer to that question, so i guess the answer is, It depends lol

 

Does this count?

 

Thanks 4DGS

 

Fair enough, lol. On an 07 G coupe. Im not a huge fan of camber-***** set-ups, so i'd like to keep it as vertical as possible, but i want the rims flush. So i realize i'll have to give a little. Height wise....probably on par with that blue Z i posted...In terms of wheel gap, not the ground. With a setup even similar to that, just how aggressive would the stretch and camber have to be?
All i know, is i'm a big fan of that look where the fender bead is almost on the sidewall of the tire, and the rim is flush. I'm new to this whole style of fitment and just want to learn. Not make waves.

 

I drive my car daily and I have pushed the limits on the sedan....I also have no issues with it at all. I took it to an extreme, -7.5 degrees of camber, running offsets some Z guys don't even run.

I don't rub one bit, but I do have issues with the fender hitting the wheel since my spring rate is too low. It's part of the game. Gotta make sacrifices. What's next you ask? Body work, as wider fenders or widebody, whichever route the user wants to go with.

Some guys actually drive super low, others are on bags. It depends where you live too and how often you drive. I drive way a fair amount in a variety of areas, many places I haven't been so you gotta try to plan ahead.. If you can't, then you just deal with it, just like when I was super dumped and got stuck in a parking lot..what did I do? Floor through it and mess up my exhaust (thankfully oem). It's a risk you take.

 

ok lets start from the begining..



when you lower a car the tires camber out (negative) and toe gets thrown offspec

So this is what you want: you want as verticle as possible, slammed like that blue z, no wheel gap and stretched tires

so basically an aggressive setup that's not aggressive

what you want to understand and obviously learn is that camber is not really THAT BAD, don't go with that misconception. Yes the tires will wear out faster in relation to stock, but toe is what affects the tire wear MORE than camber. So if one knows what they are doing, they get their toe ON POINT thus laving camber to play with.

As for rubbing when being that close, you follow something along the lines of what donpisto wants, his setup is aggressive for a sedan thus he gets stiffer coilovers and puts them on the stiffest settings to prevent that bounce and even rub.

Having this kind of setup, and having done the research and fender work, take a good amount of effort. I don't know about you, but when I put effort into something I'm careful with it but don't go overboard.

But always keep in mind that IT IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. If you want to learn thats cool there are many on here who will help. But understand that you are asking for something rather irrational. It is called aggressive for a reason.

 

Interesting. Thank you for your responses. So the setups that are like that (fender on sidewall, no wheel gap, camber) have little to no suspension travel? For some reason i've been under the impression the wheel pulled in and tucked when the suspension compressed.

So obviously people's interpretation of aggressive will vary. I've seen alot of posters get flamed for posting rides that aren't aggressive. So set it clear, do aggressive rides retain any suspension travel or are they rock hard? Is that Z very aggressive or relatively tame?

 

like i said, set the dampening on the coilovers to STIFF

you rub because the dampening is too soft

better coilovers have better struts that don't require you to be on full stiff to prevent rubbing

 

there's an entire thread about aggressive/stretched/VIP/etc. let's keep the thread on topic for the OP's sake

 

^^^ but discussion of 12" wheels with neg 8 degree camber is so interesting

 

12" wheels ftmfw

 

^^^ 12.5 ftmfw!