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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Wouldn't the paint prep and paint itself take care of that? btw is that a fiberglass kit?
Its definitely not a problem with the looks, we got it to work and it LOOKS fine, what I am worried about is when those cracks begin to reappear. The body shop even said that they could probably get it on and make it look good, but in two months if I hit a bump those cracks are just going to crack right through the paint again. I understand that the damage MAY have happened during shipping (didn't look like it to me but who know), but I would still expect a little help from strafe to make things right. Yes it is FG
 
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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I would definitely work something out with Strafe. They have good customer service.
Already tried, got nothing but "it must have happened in shipping, your loss".
 
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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i dont understand this, I have heard so much good things about strafe, and at the same time i hear stuff like this all the time. Do they have any QC. i guess your playing Russian roulette with them :/
 
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by shocker611
Its definitely not a problem with the looks, we got it to work and it LOOKS fine, what I am worried about is when those cracks begin to reappear. The body shop even said that they could probably get it on and make it look good, but in two months if I hit a bump those cracks are just going to crack right through the paint again. I understand that the damage MAY have happened during shipping (didn't look like it to me but who know), but I would still expect a little help from strafe to make things right. Yes it is FG
No offense, but that's fiberglass kits for ya. They're realatively easy to repair and repaint....but you'll always run the risk of cracking/damaging it when you hit something. Poly will take more abuse, but when it does break/tear, it's much harder to repair. I've dealt with fiberglass in the past, and what youre experiencing is typical. Unfortunatley, or fortunatley, your bumper's condition really isn't out of the ordinary. I try to always go the poly route nowadays just for that reason though.
 
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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is this another one of those companies where theyre great in the beginning then as they get the confidence from customers they start going down hill.. also strafe doesnt makes most of their kits right? they order it from somewhere or something
 
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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And I will politely watch this thread from afar, no sense in adding to the drama. I'll just say I'm not surprised and nothing else.
 
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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Looks like strafe will be on the naughty list this year.. Definitely not ordering from them after hearing they dont take responsability for their products. Best way to lose customers
 
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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interesting theyre usually pretty active on the forums and quick to answer anything regarding their company products. theres no way they're missing this thread. they must be brainstorming on how to respond here lol
 
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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They probably will come in this thread in defend themselfs sooner or later. Just sad to see a company not take responsibly for there product and a lack of customer satisfactions.
 
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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With all the business STRAFE does here on DRIVER I'm surprised they just don't take it back and give him the poly bumper he thought he had ordered, considering the poor quality of what he received. Come on STRAFE do the "right thing" for your customers and members of DRIVER!
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I'm just going to make the prediction that this thread will be deleted in a few days after Strafe or a Strafe fan boy complains. Then another dissatisfied buyer will make a similar thread in a week or two.......as I say every few weeks, history tends to repeat itself on Driver
 
Old Nov 17, 2011 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gary c
With all the business STRAFE does here on DRIVER I'm surprised they just don't take it back and give him the poly bumper he thought he had ordered, considering the poor quality of what he received. Come on STRAFE do the "right thing" for your customers and members of DRIVER!
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That was another guy, not me. I did not expect a poly bumper, i simply expected a FG bumper without a bunch of cracks
 
Old Nov 17, 2011 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by justmyride
I just reread Dustin's emails to you.....We won't post them as that isn't good for business. I really think He was awesome with you and tried to guide you what to do in this case..Seriously I really think you should rethink your thread...He was never rude,shady,nor misleading...I am serious He really tries to do things right. He really treated you with respect. Did he not?
I never claimed that Dustin was rude to me, I think both of us remained civil and he simply made the choice not to help me out in this instance. I'm not coming at him at a personal level, I am simply revealing a problem with a vendor in the marketplace that people need to know about. The only thing that I ever really got from him was "it was cracked during shipping, sorry no responsibility on our part". The one thing that seems shady to me about this is the amount of cracks and the lack of damage to the box. It seems very easy to me for you guys to send out **** bumpers and when they do come cracked to simply say "sorry, deal with the shipping people" and never really answer the issue here. Maybe it was damaged during shipping, I acknowledge that, he could have at least put me in the right direction to make things fixed instead of just saying I was SOL
 
Old Nov 17, 2011 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by shocker611
Let me know if I am wrong for thinking this, but when I order a new bumper I expect it to not have cracks throughout it? Seems a bit ridiculous to me that there was not any responsibility taken for this damage from the company, just seems like bad business to me in general. Maybe this is a normal thing to happen, and if that is the case let me know. The alignment was also absolutely horrible and the bumper was warped, but I kind of let that go because with some work the shop got it to work.


Hey there.. .as i stated to you in an email we strafe cannot take responsibility for something that happens during shipping. However, all our packages are fully insured incase something happens. I was more than willing to help you out in anyway possible Rian. Our policy clearly states to inspect all packages before signing for the package. Whether you were/were not there you knew the body shop would receive the package without you present. You should have notified the body shop to inspect the package prior to signing. Again, all parts are inspected for any damaged before being boxed. If something happens during shipping (we all know packages get beat up during shipping) then thats where our insurance comes in to replace products damaged.

Originally Posted by gary c
Receiving a bumper in that condition is unacceptable! Where did you buy it from? Give them a call and send it back immediately. Hopefully you put the purchase on a card or Paypal, notify them and let them know your situation...remove charges! Again, why didn't you post where you got it from?
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again, fully insured package. Customer felt taking it straight to the forum would help his case. I've explained our policy & what we could have done for him. However, jumping quick to the internet fun house is not the answer to make things right.

he bought the bumper from us gary.

Originally Posted by shocker611
Its from strafe, and they took no responsibility and said that "they could not do anything because the damage happened in shipping".
wrong. Read my 1st post

Originally Posted by G35SedanGrn
Useually when you get a damaged bumper you shouldn't sign for it & just tell the shipping company to return it to the sender as damaged in transit, I don't see why strafe isn't willing to work with you. There should be some type of insurance on thr part for parts getting damaged during shipping. Did you talk to Dustin or Law? Or the new guy Andy?
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The parts are fully insured. He spoke w/me through emails.


Originally Posted by shocker611
Talked to Dustin, took about two weeks for him to really give me a definitive answer. Also, it was sent straight to my shop so I wasnt in control of the signing otherwise I wouldn't have signed for it
I let you know we were at SEMA in Nevada from 10/31/11-11/6/11 hence nothing could really be done while we were out of state. However, i was still answering you best i could with the meidocre pictures being sent to me through email.

Originally Posted by datbeans
Wouldn't the paint prep and paint itself take care of that? btw is that a fiberglass kit?
yes & yes.

Originally Posted by G35SedanGrn
Fitment issues are 1 thing & strafe's disclaimer says that no kit fits perfect out of the box, but the cracks man, idk try talking to dustin again. He's a rlly cool guy & seems really up front with everything he does.
im very upfront. Anyone who has dealt with me & knows me can vouch. Ask me a ? you get said answer. plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Invictus_Caelumfunis
sucks man...ive never had this issue with them before.
thank you invictus.
Originally Posted by redpearl99
unacceptable
thank you

Originally Posted by 19kdrill
+1, Dustin and Lawrence have always stood behind their products. Fitment with fiberglass parts will almost never be 100%, but damage items during shipping can be claimed by the company, so other than a little paperwork, it shouldn't be an issue for you or Strafe. Just takes a little longer to get a replacement.
GL!
^this


Originally Posted by Jhambor
That's really not out of the ordinary for a fiberglass bumper. I've yet to see a fiberglass kit that was in "perfect" condition. Its hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it's just the gel coat that's cracked. Those are minor cracks and can be easily fixed during paint prep. You may not realize it now, but there's probably much more work that's going to be required on that bumper than just those cracks that you see in order to get it ready for paint and fitting properly. Most people have no clue what it takes to get afiberglass kit to look all pretty and perfect on a show car...they think they're just going to order it, paint it, and slap it on.....which is faaaaar from the case on most every kit I've ever seen. I wouldn't freak out just yet.
Exactly what im saying. Customer bought my personal bumper about a year ago. Cracks that i werent aware of at time of sale he complained about. He also took his frustration to the forum as well. All was well after shocker apologized in a pm about the thread and how the "cracks" werent that bad.



Originally Posted by ITNKICN
I thought that sounded like Strafe

Suffice to say I ordered a K2 and some impul sides from Strafe awhile ago and had your problems and more. They were selling K2 bumpers, and the image of the K2 was poly... the one they sent was actually FG. That is what it is... apparently somewhere in their thread they'd said unless otherwise indicated all bumpers sold were FG. My bad, I can eat that. The K2 fits crappy- the lights don't fit... it's crooked on one side... It's not horrible but certainly not what I expected. Of course, I was new to the body kit world back then.

My impul sides... however... showed up so brutally warped that I never was able to mount them. Strafe took absolutely no accountability for that even though what happened was EVERYTHING to do with their process and how the FG cured / dried. In fact, those sides are still sitting in my basement.

The BIG mistake I made was trusting that they would show up in reasonable condition- so I basically took the boxes when they arrived and dropped them off at the paint shop without getting them fitted. THAT was my mistake. Next time, I'd get the bumper fitted and sorted out before painting. There was no fitting the impul sides... they were absolutely warped.and beyond salvage.

But regardless. If you're keeping the bumper and the shop says they can fix it... get all that fitiment stuff dealt with before painting. If not- good luck. I fought that fight and lost. I don't care what anyone says I'll never, ever buy a strafe product again- not even an air freshner.
^useful post ian. You brought up some good points. The crappy k2 you are referring to we (at the time) were reselling through a company called Import Trenz, ITZ, etc.. reasearch them and see what comes up

the fiberglass impul sideskirts simply just dont fit. No matter the manufacturer they do not fit. Company B copied Company A. Then Company C copied company B. See the trend there? As it gets replicated the mold simply gets worse as it gets replicated. (unless company fixes issues upfront for the plug, which no one has) I tell all customers who inquire about fiberglass impuls that they are not the way to go. I actually insist to spend about 100$ more and buy poly to save the headache. Haters & Followers can vouch for me on that one

you also said
Next time, I'd get the bumper fitted and sorted out before painting.
^that is very true. ALL aftermarket kits/parts should be fitted prior to prep/paint work. NO aftermarket part should ever be bought & thrown in paint booth then installed on a car.
Originally Posted by Auto Design
yikes >.<

Packages should be insured you should probably try to get in contact with the shipping company to see if you can file a claim for some extra $$ for repairs.

- Eric
thanks for your useful post eric. Our packages are all fully insured.
Originally Posted by GarGamel
I would definitely work something out with Strafe. They have good customer service.
thank you very much. sorry to see the g for sale btw!
Originally Posted by _FrankStarks_
Can't wait for my poly nismo to come in...hopefully crack free. I would flip my lid.
nope, youll be good sir!
 


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