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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Several reasons NOT to get the C6

1) It isn't any faster on the track, in fact in the straights pretty much dead even, in the corners Cayman S is faster. At my last track outing I was within 1-2 seconds on lap times vs. a C6 Z06 on race rubber on a 2.5 mile course, the regular C6 could not keep up. Porsche does not advertise the Cayman S's true horsepower (around 315-320 stock, not 295) and Chevy over-reports the C6's HP, and the C6 is a heavier car by a couple hundred pounds.

Last, but not least - Gold Chains not required to drive the Cayman S!
Are you saying the cayman s is almost dead even on a straight with the new ZO6 ? Put down the crackpipe dude...the vette will walk away from it without any trouble.

The Cayman is a beautiful car that does handle great and has decent power, but having driven both I would take the C6 ZO6 in a "Heartbeat"...pun intended.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Sweet car! Congrats!
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by prog35
Are you saying the cayman s is almost dead even on a straight with the new ZO6 ? Put down the crackpipe dude...the vette will walk away from it without any trouble.

The Cayman is a beautiful car that does handle great and has decent power, but having driven both I would take the C6 ZO6 in a "Heartbeat"...pun intended.
I think he was comparing his cayman to the c6, not the z06. The cayman is not nearly in the same league as a z06, which really feels comfortable running with lower end ferraris and lambos. Don't get me wrong, I love the new cayman s, but I think even the reg c6 is out of its league, and should really run with e46 m3s or the likes. Anyhow, the test drive was unbelievable in the cayman s, as far as handling wise. Never felt anything like it....still itching to trade in for it....
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Congrat......

does it out perform the G in term of speed and handling?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KenDude
Several reasons NOT to get the C6

1) It isn't any faster on the track, in fact in the straights pretty much dead even, in the corners Cayman S is faster. At my last track outing I was within 1-2 seconds on lap times vs. a C6 Z06 on race rubber on a 2.5 mile course, the regular C6 could not keep up. Porsche does not advertise the Cayman S's true horsepower (around 315-320 stock, not 295) and Chevy over-reports the C6's HP, and the C6 is a heavier car by a couple hundred pounds.
Not to burst your bubble or anything, but a 1-2 seconds difference on a track is friggin' eternity. We are talking about triple digits speed over here. The new 997TT or GT3 might give the Z06 a run, considering how fast it ran at Nurburgring. Put the same driver in both the Cayman and base C6 and I am pretty positive the C6 will come out on top.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by G-Tofu
Congrat......

does it out perform the G in term of speed and handling?
Your kidding right?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by prog35
Are you saying the cayman s is almost dead even on a straight with the new ZO6 ? Put down the crackpipe dude...the vette will walk away from it without any trouble.

The Cayman is a beautiful car that does handle great and has decent power, but having driven both I would take the C6 ZO6 in a "Heartbeat"...pun intended.
No, what I said was that the Cayman S is dead even on the straights with the C6 and faster in the corners. When compared to a Z06 the Cayman S is slower in the straights and even in the corners. On a 2.5 mile grand prix course a C6 Z06 on race rubber was 1 to 2 seconds faster than my Cayman S per lap. The C6 was slower. The original comparison in this thread or question was about the C6, not the C6 Z06.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FIDDY
I think he was comparing his cayman to the c6, not the z06. The cayman is not nearly in the same league as a z06, which really feels comfortable running with lower end ferraris and lambos. Don't get me wrong, I love the new cayman s, but I think even the reg c6 is out of its league, and should really run with e46 m3s or the likes. Anyhow, the test drive was unbelievable in the cayman s, as far as handling wise. Never felt anything like it....still itching to trade in for it....
The Cayman S is faster than the e46 M3's both in straight line performance as well as in the corners, in fact MUCH faster in the corners and turns lap times easily 4-6 seconds faster with equal drivers on a 2.5 mile grand prix course.

Someone stated the C6 has great brakes, in fact even the C6 Z06 has subpar brakes, this comes from one of the leading C6 Z06 drivers who had to replace his factory Z06 brakes 3 times before settling into a full race braking setup from an aftermarket manufacturer because the factory Chevy brakes wouldn't cut it. No doubt the C6 brakes are better than the awful C5 brakes, but they still leave a LOT to be desired...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Not to burst your bubble or anything, but a 1-2 seconds difference on a track is friggin' eternity. We are talking about triple digits speed over here. The new 997TT or GT3 might give the Z06 a run, considering how fast it ran at Nurburgring. Put the same driver in both the Cayman and base C6 and I am pretty positive the C6 will come out on top.
Please read my posts carefully.

C6 Z06 - 1-2 seconds faster than Cayman "S" on 2.5 mile Grand Prix circuit
Cayman S - 1-2 seconds faster than C6 coupe on 2.5 mile Grand Prix Circuit

Example times:
1:57 C6 Z06
1:59 Cayman S
2:01 C6

Does the driver make a difference? Sure, but I'm quoting drivers of nearly equal skill or same driver in different cars, I'm not comparing Schumi to some guy down the block.

If you want to see a Cayman S running down a 550+ HP Viper GTS on the same track visit Google videos and search for Cayman + Viper.

The Cayman S is a fabulous car that can do dual duty of daily driver and serious weekend track toy. The 9ff Cayman S is faster around Nurburgring than the new 997 GT3 due to balance and design. If Porsche ever dropped the GT3 motor into the Cayman it would kill the 911, in fact several folks like Orbit Racing are already doing those sorts of things. A modified Cayman competed in the 24 hours or Nurburgring this past year and was closing in on a top 10 spot when other cars that wrecked knocked it out of the race. The car will be competing in GT4 category next race season. Caymans own "D" class in PCA club racing this year and likely will get bumped up a class due to their overly strong performances this year.

But let's get back to someone's question about how does it compare to the G35? 2 totally different cars serving 2 totally different purposes. I've owned both, I've tracked both and each has its strong points, unfortunately for the G35 few if any of those points show themselves at the track. For creature comforts, high-tech options, 3D Navi, etc. G35 wins hands down, but for performance and handling the Cayman wins hands down. So again, very hard to compare the 2 other than to say they serve different driving styles/goals/desires and that doesn't make one overall "better" than the other, it just makes them different. Differences are a good thing, more variety, more fun for everyone!

I do wish Nissan would totally revamp the suspension on the Z/G35 platform, and of course, drop some weight. Will that happen on the new Skyline?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KenDude

The 9ff Cayman S is faster around Nurburgring than the new 997 GT3 due to balance and design.
Interesting. Link?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Why www.caymanclub.net of course! If you search for 9ff it should turn up, the article was in German I think, but there should be a translation or overview in one of the topic threads as I recall...
 
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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I do wish Nissan would totally revamp the suspension on the Z/G35 platform, and of course, drop some weight. Will that happen on the new Skyline?

But can they do what you suggest without alienating their base? BMW for example offers a 3 series car with different HP options, and of course they offer their M series for serious performance. For the track guys, BMW has an alliance with Dinan to get the absolute best performance without sacrificing your warranty.

My point is that BMW didn't just offer the M3 for those who want a compact coupe. They offered their customers lots of options depending on their wants and needs, and their ability to financially satisfy their wants and needs. Nissan could follow the same model. The G would be the base car. Then they could offer a high performance version of that car for serious enthusiasts, and of course it would be great if they had an alliance with an after market tuner for the serious track guys.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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You've got taste! . I will do the same in bout 2-3 years. But will get a Carrera S.
 

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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by G UP
You've got taste! Excellent choice for the cash! . I will do the same in bout 2-3 years. But will get a Carrera S.
Before you buy the 997S ,test drive the 997 TT. You may have a change of heart.
 
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