G35 Coupe V35 2003 - 07 Discussion about the 1st Generation V35 G35 Coupe

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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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Oh, a Z4 coupe. You don't see those around too often, it's always the roadsters.

That's a shame.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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thats for all the tips guys, i'm probably going to hold off tracking it then. I am doing the OC testing, I think my chances of getting a new motor is pretty high because the dealership already promised me one. So I wanted to go hard on the older engine and then start modding once I get the new one.

And no I havent really found very many turns which I could turn at high speeds on, basically because I don't know the limits of my car yet which is what I am trying to figure out on the track instead of the road. I think it would be safer?

I've driven it about 5k miles, bought it at 72k
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Revo
I don't care if you have Michael Schumachers blood running through your veins
only one way to find out...hopefully going to be a mix of Maverick and Schumi lol

I can hear the top gun theme song in my head right now lol
I have a feeling once I get onto the track, Im never going to want to get off..


although I hate how Schumacher is racing for Mclaren now...
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 03:32 AM
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It is my daily driver, and im sure if i take it to the track i'll want to push it real hard. But getting a new car/trailer and all that thats more likely not to happen. I dont have room for all of that stuff nor the money. I just want to take my G out somewhere and just go around some corners and what not. I do want the experience. What are some possible things which could go wrong? lol worst case senarios?

 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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I tracked mine twice at Laguna Seca and had a blast. The car is very capable of being driven on a track, even bone stock. Mine was. I bought my car used with 4k miles on it and it had maybe 6 when I got it to the track. I was not comfortable pushing the car hard when I got there, but by the time I had left I learned so much about how the car drives and I felt very comfortable with it. The only major deficiency is the factory non brembo brake pads. I literally wore them down to the metal. The factory pads seem to evaporate under hard breaking. When I would push the car hard I could feel the brake fade and I would just drive it a little easier and allow more room for stopping. After that I got some stoptech rotors and better pads but I haven't tracked it since installing them.


Track driving is fun, but it is not without risk. On my 2nd track day at Laguna with the G, my uncle spun his Z4 into a tire wall... It was totaled. It made a great video, but after this happened we bought a 95 M3 to be our dedicated track car.
Just out of curiosity did insurence cover that?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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just curious guys, is it only crashing/physically damaging the car that you should worry about when tracking a car, or should mechanics be a big concern?
I also wouldn't mind taking my car to a track and just seeing what its like, but I'm that guy that would be babying it around the corners for quite some time, but i wouldn't be too worried about taking it to 6000 rpms should I? (i have the rev-up and redlines at 7K).
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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These cars were not made to be tracked. Brakes are a problem imagine clutch too with time as so many have problems just on the street. Probably want to do something about the long reach of the clutch and that spring in the clutch linkage that is so annoying. The oil consumption issue will get worse with high RPM driving. Car just seems overall to have lower build quality than other more track oriented competitors. Guessing they are not fast enough stock to worry about not having dry sump in high speed corners.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Just out of curiosity did insurence cover that?
They will not cover the track accident. Whether he managed to scam the insurance company is another thing.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by danielj
just curious guys, is it only crashing/physically damaging the car that you should worry about when tracking a car, or should mechanics be a big concern?
I also wouldn't mind taking my car to a track and just seeing what its like, but I'm that guy that would be babying it around the corners for quite some time, but i wouldn't be too worried about taking it to 6000 rpms should I? (i have the rev-up and redlines at 7K).
Obviously revving your motor out is more wear and tear on your motor - more RPM = more times your piston goes up and down.

However, I don't think you should have a serious concern about revving to redline unless you have some serious mods done to your car. Most manufacturers do engine tests that have the engine sit at redline for hours and hours on end to test reliability.

I usually hit 4-5K every day driving my car (yeah, my mileage sucks, about 18 combined), and it's not even a rev up (6500RPM redline).

I mean, I would needlessly rev it, but it's not like your motor is just going to say "Ok, I'm done" if you happen to be above 5K for 10 minutes straight.

In fact, in one case, I spent almost a full hour on a mountain road going from 3K - 6K and back down, over and over and over in and out of corners, and the motor held up fine.

That being said though, I'd suggest an oil change as soon as possible after the track day. And, if your oil already has some pretty good miles/time on it, change it before your track day. VQ's are generally hard on oil, and revving it up isn't going to help with that.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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They will not cover the track accident. Whether he managed to scam the insurance company is another thing.
Actually it was covered, no scamming necessary. Would have been hard to anyways because BMW roadside assist came on immediately wanting to send tow trucks and emergency vehicles because they got notification of the airbag deployment.

I don't rememer what insurance he has, state farm or allstate, but he has one of the few that would cover it so long as it is not a "timed event". Many insurance companies won't even cover a dent to you fender if you were even just visiting a race track.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Actually it was covered, no scamming necessary. Would have been hard to anyways because BMW roadside assist came on immediately wanting to send tow trucks and emergency vehicles because they got notification of the airbag deployment.

I don't rememer what insurance he has, state farm or allstate, but he has one of the few that would cover it so long as it is not a "timed event". Many insurance companies won't even cover a dent to you fender if you were even just visiting a race track.
Sorry assumptions on my part from you guys buying a track oriented car. I am interested did they continue to cover him or payout and cancel his policy? If they did keep him was there a rate spike?

For those who are interested here is the exact clause in my Virginia Progressive contract which is of course hard to understand insurance speak.

4. Any vehicle, located inside a facility designed for racing, for the purpose of:
a. Competing in; or
b. Practicing or preparing for;
any prearranged or organized racing or speed contest.

Basically it sounds like unless it is a race or I am being timed I am somewhere near ok.

Also depending on how modified my car was you could argue this clause as well.
B. We do not provide Liability Coverage for the ownership, maintenance or use of:
1. Any vehicle which:
b. Is designed mainly for use off public roads.

This link seems to be fairly neutral and informative on the topic.
http://www.wurthmotorsports.com/car_insurance.asp
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Yeah they continued to cover him, not sure about a rate increase, I would assume so but I never asked.
 
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