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krypton 07-15-2010 07:40 PM

triptronic question
 
Hi everyone

I noticed this weird behavior in my 04 coupe today, and I would like to ask if anyone has the same issue. I don't use triptronic very often but here's what I experienced today.

So I was driving slowly and decided to switch from D to M (triptronic showed gear 2 instantly, and yes it felt like I was in 2nd gear when I was in D) and the car jerked and knocked. It wasn't that BAD, but then I wanted to replicate the issue and drove even slower (maybe 10 km/h) on D switching to M (showed gear 1 instantly this time) and car jerked and knocked pretty badly.

As far as I can feel, there are no other issues with my transmission, changing from D to Triptronic in gears 3 and 4 is very smooth, and switching from M to D is smooth at all gears. I have no issues up shifting, however car jerks if I shift from 3 to 2 to 2 to 1 (I read that others experience same issue on this forum and others advised to let the car downshift automatically)

So the issue is switching from D to M at low speeds

Any input really appreciated

Regards:driving:

g35sweetness 07-15-2010 07:48 PM

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A32 07-15-2010 07:48 PM


however car jerks if I shift from 3 to 2 to 2 to 1 (I read that others experience same issue on this forum and others advised to let the car downshift automatically)
you're probably downshifting at too high of a speed therefore it jerks.

krypton 07-15-2010 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by g35sweetness (Post 5229280)
How about a transmission fluid change - when you'd done that and you may try that first if you're really high mileage.


87k kilometers and I don't know if and when it was done last time

krypton 07-15-2010 08:17 PM

Update: I just went to test again, and it doesn't happen all the time. For example if i just roll in D and switch to T(triptronic, 1st gear) or press gas lightly and switch to T it's very smooth.

It happens randomly and almost feels like car is in 2nd, but when I switch to T it downshifts to 1st gear and jerks OR car is in 3rd when in D, but if I switch to T it downshifts to 2nd and jerks.

BlkCoupe 07-15-2010 10:03 PM

What do you mean by knocked? Was it engine knock or was the sound related to the jerking motion? Tiptronic is meant to simulate a manual transmission that means it's to be used to accelerate to the redline to downshift when you want to accelerate or to engine brake. I do not recommend shifting into first gear when your engine braking when you come to a stop the trans will shift into 1st gear. If you truely want to use triptronic effectively I suggest you get a SprintBooster (search SprintBooster) or have a valve body rebuild on your transmission(expensive but highly effective). I believe the problem you are encountering is related to misuse of Tiptronic.

krypton 07-15-2010 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by BlkCoupe (Post 5229572)
What do you mean by knocked? Was it engine knock or was the sound related to the jerking motion? Tiptronic is meant to simulate a manual transmission that means it's to be used to accelerate to the redline to downshift when you want to accelerate or to engine brake. I do not recommend shifting into first gear when your engine braking when you come to a stop the trans will shift into 1st gear. If you truely want to use triptronic effectively I suggest you get a SprintBooster (search SprintBooster) or have a valve body rebuild on your transmission(expensive but highly effective). I believe the problem you are encountering is related to misuse of Tiptronic.

The knock is related to jerking motion, not engine. The thing is, i neither upshift or downshift. All I do is switch from D to M at very low speed.

WhosRich 07-15-2010 10:22 PM

I dont switch to and from tiptronic unless im completely stopped.

walshtj 07-15-2010 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by A32 (Post 5229281)
you're probably downshifting at too high of a speed therefore it jerks.

That is def the problem. When going from 3 to 2, downshift at 20 or less(I usually do it around 15) and then 10 or less for 1st. It will usually shift into first for you. If its the jerking feeling that is def your problem, although changing your transmission fluid wouldn't hurt...

NachoCheese 07-15-2010 11:14 PM

I can't imagine leaving the car in D all the time lol. I always have it in triptronic, unless I'm eating

krypton 07-15-2010 11:58 PM

I read somewhere that if you are cruising in D and shift to M, it downshifts a gear. maybe this is the case?

gary c 07-16-2010 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by krypton (Post 5229574)
The knock is related to jerking motion, not engine. The thing is, i neither upshift or downshift. All I do is switch from D to M at very low speed.

Yes, when you're shifting at low speed from Drive to Manual you're dropping it in first gear. From the reaction of your car when doing so it's telling you, "it doesn't like you doing that!" So don't! :OHBOY:
Gary

krypton 07-16-2010 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by gary c (Post 5229774)
Yes, when you're shifting at low speed from Drive to Manual you're dropping it in first gear. From the reaction of your car when doing so it's telling you, "it doesn't like you doing that!" So don't! :OHBOY:
Gary

okay, I just had a feeling that it was in first gear already. I guess it's possible that it is in 2nd gear and it's hard to tell. I thought that shifting to M matches the gear anyways

gary c 07-16-2010 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by krypton (Post 5229780)
okay, I just had a feeling that it was in first gear already. I guess it's possible that it is in 2nd gear and it's hard to tell. I thought that shifting to M matches the gear anyways

I doubt it, you're looking at D and at lower RPMs it's going to downshift on it's own so when you drop it in Manual it's going into first gear and your G35 isn't happy. I use the Manual on the street and when I hit the freeway I leave it in Drive. Don't think I've ever gone from D or Manual, but I've done just the opposate....:NOD: and she doesn't mind! LOL
Gary

krypton 07-16-2010 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by gary c (Post 5229811)
I doubt it, you're looking at D and at lower RPMs it's going to downshift on it's own so when you drop it in Manual it's going into first gear and your G35 isn't happy. I use the Manual on the street and when I hit the freeway I leave it in Drive. Don't think I've ever gone from D or Manual, but I've done just the opposate....:NOD: and she doesn't mind! LOL
Gary

Well, also I noticed that if you are going at highway speeds, if you shift from D to M, it always goes into 4th gear, meaning it downshifted itself from 5th to 4th. So that kind of explains it


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