So I'm moving from the midwest to California pretty soon and debating whether to buy a car here or when I get to California.

Given the large market out there, is it generally harder to get good deals in California?

i think it depends on the area in california. for example, it is apparently very difficult to haggle in socal. in norcal, you can negotiate a bit. once again though, it depends on the area and your negotiation prowess. i got my 05 6mt coupe for about $1300 off msrp. i've recently heard another member who got $1000 over invoice (that's about $2000 off msrp). we're both in norcal. another thing to keep in mind....SALES TAX!!! here in cali, it's about 8 % depending on the city.

I was under the impression that the So Cal market was tough, even for 5AT. But I have been shopping around, mostly through internet quotes, and I have gotten some great prices! I am going to pick up my DG/graphite 5AT coupe with premium and sport for 300 over invoice tomorrow (MSPR 37,480, my price 34,648!!). I was very surprised to get such a low price. Several other dealers were within a few hundred bucks of that price.

So be patient, be persistent and you WILL get a good price.

5at yes, but they wont budge for a 6mt

yeah it took FOREVER to get them to move.. just find out which dealer deals with which dealer there will always be some that wont deal with each other.. go let your sales guy know your also shopping at a dealer they dont deal with..

nywayz car + tax + registration = X.X