This might be a stupid question to ask but...has anyone else noticed that our xenons are only blue for about a few seconds after we turn on the car but after they look like jus regular lights but they are just brighter....is it just me or arent xenons supposed to have a bluish tint to it the whole time.

 

yeah I noticed that too. But even after they heat up and lose that blue hue they are still bluer than the pos yellow fogs or high beams

 

I believe they really bluey lights are not actually xenons but rather an aftermarket replacement halogen bulbs like these:

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...ance/CoolBlue/

 

omg watching noobs figuring out things is soooo fukin funny!! HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHHA


"I believe they really bluey lights are not actually xenons but rather an aftermarket replacement halogen bulbs like these:"

ROFLMAO

when the xenon light is first engaged, it takes the xenon gas a couple of minutes to heat up to optimal temperature. During the heat up period...the light appears to be "blue".

No halogen can achieve the blueness of a xenon w/o losing virtually ALL the visibility (= driving with no lights!! :O )

The "blue" everyone tries to achieve from BMW's and Mercedes and Audi's can't be done. The bulb they use is a 4300k bulb...which is PURE white/yellow. It's the way the projector is designed that gives off the blue hue. The only way to achieve that color is to retrofit the projector.

Another "way" to do it is to get a 6000k or 8000k xenon bulb...but then you're sacraficing lighting performance for the blue color. 8000k is DEEP blue though...but works at less then 75% lighting output then a 4300k bulb. The only way to get the color and maximize lighting output is to get a bmw/benz/audi projector with a 4300k bulb retrofitted.

Therefore, the cheapest solution people get is the 6000k bulbs which is a mix of blue and light output...the next best thing to a retrofit.

 

Nicely, explained flight

 

Wow, you know a lot about these.. Now, can you tell me why sometimes my headlights light up pink? ..sometimes lime green. :/

 

my mom's lexus ls430 lights up fairly blue. i want mine to look like that. How much, where and is it reliable to install?

foobs

 

Just wanted to add to what you said

The hue that your talking to is the cut off. The light shining is pure white/yellow as you said. Where the light cuts off... the horizon, there is actually a rainbow effect. The projector lens breaks up the lighting and seperates all the colors at the cut-off. Blue has the largest area in the horizon, and thats what we all see when a BMW is coming at us. 4300k is stock for all HID cars, but I believe that the Honda S2000 uses a 4700k bulb. S2000s have the best HIDs imo Also, over time, as the HIDs age, the color temp goes up and turns slightly bluer over time. 8000k looks really nice, but just as you said, alot of light is lost. I wouldnt suggest anyone use anything more than 6000k. 8000k imo gives off about the same light output as a normal stock halogen. Depending on the type of headlights, it might even be worse. I've seen some people use 10000k... its ridiculous imo.

 

There's a guy on the forums that's willing to retrofit BMW projectors for $200 or so. Search the forums.

 

[QUOTE=flightz71]omg watching noobs figuring out things is soooo fukin funny!! HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHHA


Omg watching some of the guys with more time on the site be smug and condescending can be so fukin predictable! I think I went to school with you - you were the guy who knew all about Star Wars and mocked the people who didn't. Forgive me for not working at the Sears Auto Center with you. Just trying to make my way and learn a little.

BTW those Sylvania lights do have a distinctly blueish tint Brainiac.

 

BTW thank you Silverbolt for having the maturity to share your knowledge with others in a way that doesn't imply that you are the all seeing all knowing Master of the Universe as a result of that knowledge. I find it so much more palatable that way.

 

lol, yeah flightz, it prop wouldn't have killed you to just post the info, and leave out the rest

 

lol...i was actually the guy in high school who made fun of all those people who were like "YOU FREAKIN IDIOT...THAT'S CALLED THE LEVEL 10 LIGHTNING BOLT NOT THE LEVEL 10 LIGHTNING CLOUD...GOD FREAKIN IDIOT!!" Just kidding...sort of

What i meant to say was ...it's really amusing for me to see people figure out things that they have no clue about...I'm serious the kinda guy who wouldn't mock someone because of their lack of knowledge...I just find it kinda funny when they make random guesses?? haha Sorry if i offended anyone...

btw...off topic...but I think i just proved that being 18 and only having...69 posts?? shows that one doesn't need a crap load of posts and be 30+ year old to know my crap. I used to get crap from people ALL the time just cause I was young... "OOO he's 17/18...he must think fast and the furious is reality and he doesn't know what a toyota 2000gt is but thinks it's a mitsubishi 3000gt" kinda stuff.

My two points are:

1. Please don't take offense to the original comment...it's just something I personally find amusing...but I am glad to help neone out when they need it.

2. How old did you guys think I was with my explanation about the hid's??

vstypicals - I'm not sure...all i can think of is that it can depend on weather conditions...the bulb might react to different humidities and temperatures. If what you meant was why is one bulb blue and the other pink or something...it's because one of the projector's aren't pointed correctly

Fooboy - It's your mom's car...lol leave it. Also because I've never heard anyone do a retrofit on a ls430... Besides...on the road...those lights look BLUE from a distance...don't worry too much.

big daddy d - Again sorry if you were offended. But btw...I don't work at sears...I am interning at TSMC (Taiwan semicoductor manufacturing corporation) right now. My carrer will be in electrical engineering...cars is just a HUGE passion of mine. I know what I know because i spend hours researching the amazing technologies a car has to offer to human nature : ) And the Sylvania lights look like halogens next to 8000k hids...lol Try to get both cars together and you'll know what i mean.

 

You're very welcome. I do know alot about certain things... but there are alot of things I dont know anything about. I pass what I've learend, and learn more about everthing that I can. One day I'll probably be asking you a question that'll seem newbie'ish to you But as said in my sig below. "The only stupid question, is the question not asked".

For more lighting info... about color temp and such, read this thread. Its VERY informative.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=298500

Also, http://www.hidplanet.com/forums is a great place to learn more about HIDs. I did quite a bit of research about HIDs when I was planning on doing an HID conversion to a halogen housing.

 

All hyperwhites look like halogen next to any oem HIDs. Theres no comparason. The closest I have seen, are PIAA Plasmas, and the Plasma GTX's. Alone, they look like real HIDs. But when compared side by side with any real HID, its a huge difference!

My little brother had Plasma's put in his ride, and I felt so stupid waisting all my time, energy and money doing an HID conversion. When I finally finished, we parked side by side to compare. WOW, his Plasma's looked so cheap, and he felt so stupid haha!

again, quoting my own sig "take your time, do it right, and never settle for less." I feel that its best to go all out and do a HID conversion on the fogs. The best one to get is the kind that has a HID/halogen combination. It looks like a normal HID bulb, with a tiny halogen bulb attached right on it. The little halogen would be used as your high beams, since you cant flash with HIDs since they need time to warm up. The best way to make it match, is to have the same thing. That would be an expensive mod, since you'd also have to change the OEM HID bulb to match, but as I said before.... "take your time, do it right, and never settle for less"