A Black Box.
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A Black Box.
Just read an article about a BMW M3 on The Truth About Cars and was a little bit scared 
about this. Is there such a box on G35 Coupe????
That would be quite funny, imagine you coming to have your car serviced and....
Here is a short excerpt from the article:
<i>...Here’s the problem: take your “track-oriented” M3 CS onto an actual race track for anything resembling a "competitive event" and BMW could void your warranty. And don’t think you can cheat. The M3 CS’ black box records the time, date and shift points during all your high-speed sorties...</i>
about this. Is there such a box on G35 Coupe????That would be quite funny, imagine you coming to have your car serviced and....
Here is a short excerpt from the article:
<i>...Here’s the problem: take your “track-oriented” M3 CS onto an actual race track for anything resembling a "competitive event" and BMW could void your warranty. And don’t think you can cheat. The M3 CS’ black box records the time, date and shift points during all your high-speed sorties...</i>
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I love how all these car companies advertise and push the performance of their cars but then are like if you use your car's performance abilities we'll void your warranty and screw you over....
there are reasons we all don't buy grand marquis and kias.
I understand voiding warranties of people with engine mods to a certain extent, but having fun with a stock car should never be a reason to void the warranty unless the driver was a complete moron and didnt know how to shift etc.
there are reasons we all don't buy grand marquis and kias.
I understand voiding warranties of people with engine mods to a certain extent, but having fun with a stock car should never be a reason to void the warranty unless the driver was a complete moron and didnt know how to shift etc.
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Originally Posted by striped
Just read an article about a BMW M3 on The Truth About Cars and was a little bit scared about this. Is there such a box on G35 Coupe????
That would be quite funny, imagine you coming to have your car serviced and....
Here is a short excerpt from the article:
<i>...Here’s the problem: take your “track-oriented” M3 CS onto an actual race track for anything resembling a "competitive event" and BMW could void your warranty. And don’t think you can cheat. The M3 CS’ black box records the time, date and shift points during all your high-speed sorties...</i>
about this. Is there such a box on G35 Coupe????That would be quite funny, imagine you coming to have your car serviced and....
Here is a short excerpt from the article:
<i>...Here’s the problem: take your “track-oriented” M3 CS onto an actual race track for anything resembling a "competitive event" and BMW could void your warranty. And don’t think you can cheat. The M3 CS’ black box records the time, date and shift points during all your high-speed sorties...</i>
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Originally Posted by HipHopPro
Old News, but yes black boxes as been in car from about 1998 I think, till now. It's for tracking. (Lowjack / Onstar etc.. are the one's you pay for, but the Black Boxes are FREE not for your use ;O)
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It's a damn conspiracy, but I love the way GM is selling Onstar!
What better way for Big Brother to track our every move and listen to your conversations in our car than Selling our lazy asses on OnStar!
Can't have a private conversation in you car anymore!
Next it won't be an option! I'm gonna buy me a 69' SS Camaro!
What better way for Big Brother to track our every move and listen to your conversations in our car than Selling our lazy asses on OnStar!
Can't have a private conversation in you car anymore!
Next it won't be an option! I'm gonna buy me a 69' SS Camaro!
Last time I heard anything only GM had the black box being installed.. I don't think we have it but who knows. Anyone??
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From what I understand, there are "black boxes" or data recorders on vehicles now not necessarily to prosecute but to determine causes of issues and improve safety.
Does that mean these black boxes won't be used in a witch hunt. I personally don't trust anyone, so I would say that they could be or have been.
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Does that mean these black boxes won't be used in a witch hunt. I personally don't trust anyone, so I would say that they could be or have been.
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i think CNN had somethign on this... if i recall correctly, they just record data, aka speeds, mileage, etc etc... i dont think it can be used to void warrenty... if they say that, sue them...
1) they are intruding on your privacy
2) i doubt in the contract you sign it says "car must be used safely"
3) YOU bought it, YOU should be able to do what you want to it, as long as it is legal
so if you get bullsh|t from them, sue them... simple as that
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1) they are intruding on your privacy
2) i doubt in the contract you sign it says "car must be used safely"
3) YOU bought it, YOU should be able to do what you want to it, as long as it is legal
so if you get bullsh|t from them, sue them... simple as that
haha
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There was a case a couple years ago where a 98+ Trans Am crashed, killing some in another car, and the driver of the trans am survived. The black box was used to prosecute the driver because it recorded the speed of the vehicle at the time the airbags deployed. Here is the link:
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=630499&page=1
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=630499&page=1
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Originally Posted by JJH
There was a case a couple years ago where a 98+ Trans Am crashed, killing some in another car, and the driver of the trans am survived. The black box was used to prosecute the driver because it recorded the speed of the vehicle at the time the airbags deployed. Here is the link:
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=630499&page=1
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=630499&page=1
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Let's not confuse the "black box" issue with the "snapshot" capability of the ECM.
Every OBDII ECM (or PCM, ECU, whatever) I've ever seen had the data from the last few moments of operation saved on the chip. With GM computers from 1996+, there was approximately 8 seconds of sensor data saved and viewable. We would pull these cores out of wrecked cars, reprogram them, and send them out to customers.
One ECM from a wrecked F-body (single-car accident into telephone pole) showed 80% throttle and 0% brake input at the time of impact. Recorded speed varied widely between 60-100 MPH for the last few moments, so the driver was probably on the gas with the tires spinning when he t-boned the pole.
I see no reason on earth why Nissan wouldn't have this capability as well.
Every OBDII ECM (or PCM, ECU, whatever) I've ever seen had the data from the last few moments of operation saved on the chip. With GM computers from 1996+, there was approximately 8 seconds of sensor data saved and viewable. We would pull these cores out of wrecked cars, reprogram them, and send them out to customers.
One ECM from a wrecked F-body (single-car accident into telephone pole) showed 80% throttle and 0% brake input at the time of impact. Recorded speed varied widely between 60-100 MPH for the last few moments, so the driver was probably on the gas with the tires spinning when he t-boned the pole.
I see no reason on earth why Nissan wouldn't have this capability as well.
Originally Posted by Sun35
I love how all these car companies advertise and push the performance of their cars but then are like if you use your car's performance abilities we'll void your warranty and screw you over....
there are reasons we all don't buy grand marquis and kias.
I understand voiding warranties of people with engine mods to a certain extent, but having fun with a stock car should never be a reason to void the warranty unless the driver was a complete moron and didnt know how to shift etc.
there are reasons we all don't buy grand marquis and kias.
I understand voiding warranties of people with engine mods to a certain extent, but having fun with a stock car should never be a reason to void the warranty unless the driver was a complete moron and didnt know how to shift etc.