Best Wax and Tire Dressing
I'm a big supporter of Zaino too, but I'm going to add to that a little. First, I think a good surface is ideal to maiking Zaino look good. When they say it's optically perfect they mean it, so if you have scratches, marring, swirls, cobwebs, oxidation, whatever... it will exagerate, not hide them. Z5 has fillers, which help, but if you want to make Z2 pro look its best do yourself a favor and eliminate the swirls first. I've seen Z2 on cars with swirls and it just makes them look worse than having no sealant/wax at all. Just my $0.02 on that.
Also, after applying a few coats of Zaino (when you're sure you're getting the durabilty you want out of it) I find topping it with a carnuba makes it look even better. Poorboys Natty, Mothers Carnuba, Souveran, P21S, NXT, most of them look great over a few coats of Zaino, they just add a depth to the wet reflective look you get from Zaino. You won't be able to apply more Zaino until you remove the wax later though.
Oh, and re: the different between Zaino and NXT, I'd take that bet. I don't think either would look "better", but I know they look different. I was always moderately happy with Zaino alone, but like I mentioned above a coat of carnuba over it helps a lot.
Also, after applying a few coats of Zaino (when you're sure you're getting the durabilty you want out of it) I find topping it with a carnuba makes it look even better. Poorboys Natty, Mothers Carnuba, Souveran, P21S, NXT, most of them look great over a few coats of Zaino, they just add a depth to the wet reflective look you get from Zaino. You won't be able to apply more Zaino until you remove the wax later though.
Oh, and re: the different between Zaino and NXT, I'd take that bet. I don't think either would look "better", but I know they look different. I was always moderately happy with Zaino alone, but like I mentioned above a coat of carnuba over it helps a lot.
Last edited by Picus; Aug 13, 2005 at 10:55 PM.
Originally Posted by ScottR
Just started using Wheelwax, seems to work pretty good, brake dust rinses away.
I use both Zymol and Zaino.
Zymol I use on my millenium silver Lexus RX 300
Zaino on my G35
Both give excellent shine, with a slight nod to the Zymol for greater depth of shine and Zymol for greater durability.
Zymol I use on my millenium silver Lexus RX 300
Zaino on my G35
Both give excellent shine, with a slight nod to the Zymol for greater depth of shine and Zymol for greater durability.
Originally Posted by picus112
I'm a big supporter of Zaino too, but I'm going to add to that a little. First, I think a good surface is ideal to maiking Zaino look good. When they say it's optically perfect they mean it, so if you have scratches, marring, swirls, cobwebs, oxidation, whatever... it will exagerate, not hide them. Z5 has fillers, which help, but if you want to make Z2 pro look its best do yourself a favor and eliminate the swirls first. I've seen Z2 on cars with swirls and it just makes them look worse than having no sealant/wax at all. Just my $0.02 on that.
Also, after applying a few coats of Zaino (when you're sure you're getting the durabilty you want out of it) I find topping it with a carnuba makes it look even better. Poorboys Natty, Mothers Carnuba, Souveran, P21S, NXT, most of them look great over a few coats of Zaino, they just add a depth to the wet reflective look you get from Zaino. You won't be able to apply more Zaino until you remove the wax later though.
Oh, and re: the different between Zaino and NXT, I'd take that bet. I don't think either would look "better", but I know they look different. I was always moderately happy with Zaino alone, but like I mentioned above a coat of carnuba over it helps a lot.
Also, after applying a few coats of Zaino (when you're sure you're getting the durabilty you want out of it) I find topping it with a carnuba makes it look even better. Poorboys Natty, Mothers Carnuba, Souveran, P21S, NXT, most of them look great over a few coats of Zaino, they just add a depth to the wet reflective look you get from Zaino. You won't be able to apply more Zaino until you remove the wax later though.
Oh, and re: the different between Zaino and NXT, I'd take that bet. I don't think either would look "better", but I know they look different. I was always moderately happy with Zaino alone, but like I mentioned above a coat of carnuba over it helps a lot.
Originally Posted by t0pher
Which professional products do you use? Since most regular detailers use Maguiars, saying "what the professional use" doesn't really say much.
Arer you talking about Klasse? P21? Pinnacle? 3M? Which products?
Arer you talking about Klasse? P21? Pinnacle? 3M? Which products?
Originally Posted by t0pher
Awesome - you are the second person I have seen that has even heard of Natty!
One thing no one has mentioned is Griot's Garage Best of Show wax along with their polish, clay bar and Speed Shine (and their new Spray Wax works really well too right after you wash). The Best of Show wax gives a depth that no other product, especially Zaino, can match. So many people argue that additional coats of Zaino give more 'depth' but it gives a greater depth in the shine, not the actual paint color like Griot's does. The only down side is that you can only order it through their catalog or online (but the same goes for Zaino).
If oyu haven't tried it, I seriously suggest trying it out.
If oyu haven't tried it, I seriously suggest trying it out.
Originally Posted by breweb01
Zaino all the way.
As for Mr Clean. It still leaves spots worthless in my opinion, I only used it twice and tossed it in the trash.
As for Mr Clean. It still leaves spots worthless in my opinion, I only used it twice and tossed it in the trash.
I am in 100% agreement with you on both counts!
I forget the name of the new tire cleaner I am using--I think it is Meguires. It has an adjustable spray nozzel for low-high profile tires and it lasts pretty well.
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