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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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Only tips I can offer is do not skip the clay, use microfiber towels, and top the Zaino with a carnauba when you're done.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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I actually ordered the clay bar too, so I'll get cracking on that once I'm done washing it with dishwashing soap.

Now I gotta stop by Bed bath and beyond to pick up some cheap towels that I can use.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by picus112
Only tips I can offer is do not skip the clay, use microfiber towels, and top the Zaino with a carnauba when you're done.
whats a carnauba?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Now I gotta stop by Bed bath and beyond to pick up some cheap towels that I can use.
Wrong. You'll likely be buying nice, expensive towels. Don't skimp now. They should last you a year. It's money well spent, if you want to avoid swirls and scratches. It did suck cutting the ends off those towels (12 assorted sizes at a cost of $200), but every time I wash/polish the car I realize how essential the good towels are.

Get hand-towels to use for washing your car, with bath towels or bath "sheets" (big F'n towels) making up the rest. I use one towel to dry, one for Z2 removal and one for the Z6, so get a minimum of 3 or 4 towels in addition to the handtowels for washing and detailing. I even use the hand towels for conditioning the seats, etc. Only the softest towels touch my G.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GT-Ron
Wrong. You'll likely be buying nice, expensive towels. Don't skimp now. They should last you a year. It's money well spent, if you want to avoid swirls and scratches. It did suck cutting the ends off those towels (12 assorted sizes at a cost of $200), but every time I wash/polish the car I realize how essential the good towels are.

Get hand-towels to use for washing your car, with bath towels or bath "sheets" (big F'n towels) making up the rest. I use one towel to dry, one for Z2 removal and one for the Z6, so get a minimum of 3 or 4 towels in addition to the handtowels for washing and detailing. I even use the hand towels for conditioning the seats, etc. Only the softest towels touch my G.
where can i get microfiber towels?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Zaino is fantastic! I use Z1 and Z2 (haven't tried ZFX yet.) I do it every 6 months. Here are the simple instructions I send my friends when they ask me how to do it:
  • Wash the car with blue liquid Dawn dish soap to strip off all the wax and oils
  • Lightly dry (no need to get every drop of water off)
  • Use the claybar over the car with a quick detail spray (I use Maguiars Quick Detailer) or car soap and water (to act as a lubricant) to lift off the bonded contaminants
  • Wash the car again with any good car shampoo to get the clay residue off
  • Dry entire car thoroughly
  • Apply the Z-1 Polish lock (does not need to dry)
  • Apply the Z-2 Polish right over top of that and allow to dry
  • Wipe off after dry (30-60 minutes)
  • Drool
Do not be afraid of the clay! Here's a good article on claying:

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-clay.html

Also, do not apply any wax or polish over water spots! Trapping mineral spots under a coat of polish just makes shiny mineral spots

If you have water spots, read this:

http://store.yahoo.com/autopia/horeswmawasp.html

Here's a few tips:
  • Use different clay for wheels since they get get grimy with brake dust
  • Clay works really well on windows - gets the bug guts and mineral deposits off!
  • Use 100% cotton towels - no polyester - and cut the tags off!
  • I use foam pads with a terry cloth wrap to apply the Z1 and Z2
  • I tend to use more than "the dime-sized amount" to do the hood, but probably because the pad is absorbing too much
  • When applying the Z1 and Z2, do not go in circles! Apply the products in the direction the car travels for horizontal surfaces and up and down for vertical surfaces. It is subtle but makes a difference in the finished polish
  • If you see streaks, the polish is not dry yet - come back in an hour
  • Wait 24 hours before applying a second coat of Z2

Remember, detailing is all about surface prep! The more time you spend in the beginning, the happier you will be in the end!

Hope this helps!
thanks topher that helps a lot
 
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by james34
where can i get microfiber towels?
I haven't looked for them. And after using the good bath towels, I never will. 100% USA Cotton AND Made-In-The-USA towels have treated my car's finish better than anything I've used in the past... ...AND they're thirsty buggers! Even if I spent $200/year on towels (won't buy that many next time), it would be worth the expense. Over the years, I've wasted a lot of money on inferior towels and then paid the additional price of swirls/scratches in my finish.

Go to Bed, Bath and Beyond and price the proper towels (origin and material) in the Wamsutta line. Be sure to avoid the most expensive, Egyptian cotton and Made in Pakistan towels available within that same Wamsutta brand. You'll feel the difference right off the shelf.
 

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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by james34
whats a carnauba?
Carnauba wax - type of wax that comes from a Brazillian palm...but I have never put wax over a polymer sealer like Zaino.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by STill_matic
I actually ordered the clay bar too, so I'll get cracking on that once I'm done washing it with dishwashing soap.

Now I gotta stop by Bed bath and beyond to pick up some cheap towels that I can use.
Sweet god almighty don't use cheap towels, please. I will personally pay for you to buy at least one nice mf buffing towel if you just promise me you will use it and not cheap cotton. Good cotton is *ok*, but really, go with mf or at least nice cotton (like gt-ron mentioned), please. I'm not going to get into a mf vs. cotton debate, maybe try both and see what you like. I personally like good mf towels to dry and buff.

You can get them at just about any online detailing shop like:

http://store.pakshak.com/ultra-micro...l-16x16-1.html

That.

Use these or something similar to dry.

http://store.pakshak.com/waffle-weav...l-16x24-1.html

Oh, and get some of these to apply the Zaino.

http://store.pakshak.com/ultra-micro...pad-4x6-1.html

I promise you, as the owner of a black Infiniti (with the same soft clearcoat you will have) that if you use cheap cotton you will get more micromarring than you will eliminate with polishing or filler wax, thus defeating your efforts entirely.

Originally Posted by james34
whats a carnauba?
Carnuaba wax is the stuff that's been around forever. There are tons of varieties and generally they have worse durability that a sealant like Zaino, however, they tend to, imo, look better on darker colors, which is why some people apply a layer over Zaino. You just have to re-apply every 2-3 months compared to Zaino's 6 months. The nice thing is once you have a base of Zaino down you can slap on a carnuaba and just re-apply it over the Zaino whenever you want. I do a layer after each wash. I just think it adds a certain depth to the paint which Zaino lacks. Don't get me wrong, I love Zaino as a sealant and think it looks good, just sort of plasticy and sterile by itself.
 

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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Right on. Even with the best wax, your results will only be as good as your towels.

Using sub-standard towels is like spending $4K in suspension mods and then rolling on $50 econo-tires. It's a waste of money and simply not worth the effort.
 
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