problems with 06 order
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problems with 06 order
I'm getting ready to order an 06 so I've been asking dealers for prices. I need some help on the buying process. First time around, I didn't get the privelage of coming to this board.
1. When do I mention I have a trade?
2. When do I turn in my trade?
3. Can I sell my car in the middle of the trade process?
3. If my original dealer is offering a really really good price, should I go for it?
I think they might be lowballing (200 over invoice) me in order for me to stop bargaining with other dealers. Another reason might be that they think I'm trading in my car. I definitely would if they give me a good price.
4. Is there a way to lock down the deal? I've heard of some manager backing out of someone's signed deal.
5. Once I leave a deposit, would it ever be refundable?
A lot of questions, but it would definitely help out new buyers that can add to this great community.
Henry
1. When do I mention I have a trade?
2. When do I turn in my trade?
3. Can I sell my car in the middle of the trade process?
3. If my original dealer is offering a really really good price, should I go for it?
I think they might be lowballing (200 over invoice) me in order for me to stop bargaining with other dealers. Another reason might be that they think I'm trading in my car. I definitely would if they give me a good price.
4. Is there a way to lock down the deal? I've heard of some manager backing out of someone's signed deal.
5. Once I leave a deposit, would it ever be refundable?
A lot of questions, but it would definitely help out new buyers that can add to this great community.
Henry
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I think they might be lowballing (200 over invoice) me in order for me to stop bargaining with other dealers. Another reason might be that they think I'm trading in my car. I definitely would if they give me a good price.
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I'm in a similar situation as you but my local dealer isn't willing to go near invoice. The best that they can give me for a 2005 is around $1200 over invoice. And they are cheating me on my trade!!! They are giving me $36000 for my 2004 FX45 with everything but DVD entertainment and chrome wheels and only 7000 miles on it. I don't know what to do!!! Anyone have any suggestions?? I am in Pittsburgh, PA and the next closest dealer to me is like 200 miles away from me. Sorry for not answering any of those questions posted by the original poster but instead raise more questions.
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Originally Posted by smokedhen
I'm getting ready to order an 06 so I've been asking dealers for prices. I need some help on the buying process. First time around, I didn't get the privelage of coming to this board.
1. When do I mention I have a trade?
2. When do I turn in my trade?
3. Can I sell my car in the middle of the trade process?
3. If my original dealer is offering a really really good price, should I go for it?
I think they might be lowballing (200 over invoice) me in order for me to stop bargaining with other dealers. Another reason might be that they think I'm trading in my car. I definitely would if they give me a good price.
4. Is there a way to lock down the deal? I've heard of some manager backing out of someone's signed deal.
5. Once I leave a deposit, would it ever be refundable?
A lot of questions, but it would definitely help out new buyers that can add to this great community.
Henry
1. When do I mention I have a trade?
2. When do I turn in my trade?
3. Can I sell my car in the middle of the trade process?
3. If my original dealer is offering a really really good price, should I go for it?
I think they might be lowballing (200 over invoice) me in order for me to stop bargaining with other dealers. Another reason might be that they think I'm trading in my car. I definitely would if they give me a good price.
4. Is there a way to lock down the deal? I've heard of some manager backing out of someone's signed deal.
5. Once I leave a deposit, would it ever be refundable?
A lot of questions, but it would definitely help out new buyers that can add to this great community.
Henry
1. When you've finalized the price of the new car
2. When you get the new car
3. Don't know, but I'd say yes if you follow step 1
4. Deal's not done until the financing is taken care of
5. Yes, it's just a deposit. If they say there's a penalty walk away b/c they're shady
Funny thing about buying "in demand" cars. Very hard to get a deal. Do yourself a favor and get an '05 unless you must have memory seats and bluetooth support, oh and a trunk release button.
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Originally Posted by johnsonlau703
I'm in a similar situation as you but my local dealer isn't willing to go near invoice. The best that they can give me for a 2005 is around $1200 over invoice. And they are cheating me on my trade!!! They are giving me $36000 for my 2004 FX45 with everything but DVD entertainment and chrome wheels and only 7000 miles on it. I don't know what to do!!! Anyone have any suggestions?? I am in Pittsburgh, PA and the next closest dealer to me is like 200 miles away from me. Sorry for not answering any of those questions posted by the original poster but instead raise more questions.
I'm not sure if i'm 100% right... but i thought i'd offer my thoughts...
1. When do I mention I have a trade?
I wouldn't mention it until you are asked during the signing process. Get him to give you a number before mentioning you have a trade.
2. When do I turn in my trade?
When you buy the car... obviously...
3. Can I sell my car in the middle of the trade process?
If you're going to trade it in, how could you sell it? You've already traded it in.
3. If my original dealer is offering a really really good price, should I go for it?
I think they might be lowballing (200 over invoice) me in order for me to stop bargaining with other dealers. Another reason might be that they think I'm trading in my car. I definitely would if they give me a good price.
Even if they give you a great deal... don't let that stop you from going to another dealer to see if you can get a better deal. Don't worry about loyalty. Your new loyalty will be the dealer that gives you the best price.
4. Is there a way to lock down the deal? I've heard of some manager backing out of someone's signed deal.
If you've signed the papers, they cannot back out. The only way they can take your car back is if you cannot pay for the car and the bank won't fund it for you / your loan gets denied.
5. Once I leave a deposit, would it ever be refundable?
Yes, as long as you make sure with the salesman that it is refundable. And get a receipt and some type of signed paperwork stating it's fully refundable should you change your mind.
1. When do I mention I have a trade?
I wouldn't mention it until you are asked during the signing process. Get him to give you a number before mentioning you have a trade.
2. When do I turn in my trade?
When you buy the car... obviously...
3. Can I sell my car in the middle of the trade process?
If you're going to trade it in, how could you sell it? You've already traded it in.
3. If my original dealer is offering a really really good price, should I go for it?
I think they might be lowballing (200 over invoice) me in order for me to stop bargaining with other dealers. Another reason might be that they think I'm trading in my car. I definitely would if they give me a good price.
Even if they give you a great deal... don't let that stop you from going to another dealer to see if you can get a better deal. Don't worry about loyalty. Your new loyalty will be the dealer that gives you the best price.
4. Is there a way to lock down the deal? I've heard of some manager backing out of someone's signed deal.
If you've signed the papers, they cannot back out. The only way they can take your car back is if you cannot pay for the car and the bank won't fund it for you / your loan gets denied.
5. Once I leave a deposit, would it ever be refundable?
Yes, as long as you make sure with the salesman that it is refundable. And get a receipt and some type of signed paperwork stating it's fully refundable should you change your mind.
Also, a lot of dealers will honor numbers from www.cars.com
You'll learn invoice prices and what price you should aim for. That way you show the dealer you've done your homework and you're serious.
You'll learn invoice prices and what price you should aim for. That way you show the dealer you've done your homework and you're serious.
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It is still unclear to me as to when I should mention a trade. I remember going to the dealer twice the first time I bought my car. First time was to leave my deposit. I got a piece of paper stating the deal. The second time I made the finance arrangements to pay the remainder and picked up my car.
Am I suppose to mention a trade the day when I leave a deposit and writing up the deal (1st time)?
or am I suppose to mention it when I'm about to sign the papers to pick up my new car (2nd time)?
As to leaving my old car with them, am I entitled to keep it until I pick up my new car? I need to drive it until I can get pick up the new one.
Am I suppose to mention a trade the day when I leave a deposit and writing up the deal (1st time)?
or am I suppose to mention it when I'm about to sign the papers to pick up my new car (2nd time)?
As to leaving my old car with them, am I entitled to keep it until I pick up my new car? I need to drive it until I can get pick up the new one.
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As far as trading in your car goes, the other alternative is to sell you car to Carmax. Ive sold two of my previous cars there before buying from the dealer and the difference between the dealer offer and carmax price was large enough to offset the tax advantage. For my civic the dealer offered 1500, carmax offered 3600, Bluebook was 3500. For my odyssey, dealer offered 17000, carmax offered 21000, blue book was 20500. But then again my cars we all well maintained and clean though the civic had a few scratches and dings.
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As a dealer , here is the perspective from us:
1. When do I mention I have a trade? You can mention this anytime, good advice is to get the car appraised by the dealer when you order the new car. If you have alternative transportation and you like the trade number most dealers will allow you to trade early and lock in that trade number. A visit to Carmax always helps to validate the trade value, and makes sure the dealer isn't holding on your trade. The benefit of pre-trading is locking in a number that is subject to change in the 60-90 days that the order will take. If this is your only transportation, most dealers would be willing to provide you with a loaner for the last few weeks before your new car arrives.
2. When do I turn in my trade? If you wait to trade til when you take delivery, taking care of the Carmax visit before showing up at the dealer is always best. It gives you an idea of what to expect and helps speed things along.
3. Can I sell my car in the middle of the trade process? If your speaking of selling your car outright that can take place anytime before taking delivery of the new car. This is one of the benefits of factory ordering a car, during the 2-3 months that your waiting on your new car you can find a retail buyer for your old one. The dealer should also be willing to handle an "in & out" where they show your old car as a trade in and you recieve tax credits for the amount you retailed your car for.
3. If my original dealer is offering a really really good price, should I go for it? Sure, if you have enjoyed your previous experience and the current pricing is competitive and fair, why not do buisness with your current dealer. Also in our market your local dealerships provide complimentary maintainance for the first 2 years. That may benefit you also.
4. Is there a way to lock down the deal? I've heard of some manager backing out of someone's signed deal. If pricing is available(currently not available on 06 G35's) you should be able to get your deal in writing upon ordering the car. Most dealer's will give you a printed "buyer's order" reflecting your deal and your deposit.
5. Once I leave a deposit, would it ever be refundable? Not sure about all states, but most do not allow the dealer to keep a deposit if delivery is not taken of the new car. You should have the dealer put this in writing on the buyer's order or order write up.
Hope this helps, and if there is anything I can help you with let me know.
1. When do I mention I have a trade? You can mention this anytime, good advice is to get the car appraised by the dealer when you order the new car. If you have alternative transportation and you like the trade number most dealers will allow you to trade early and lock in that trade number. A visit to Carmax always helps to validate the trade value, and makes sure the dealer isn't holding on your trade. The benefit of pre-trading is locking in a number that is subject to change in the 60-90 days that the order will take. If this is your only transportation, most dealers would be willing to provide you with a loaner for the last few weeks before your new car arrives.
2. When do I turn in my trade? If you wait to trade til when you take delivery, taking care of the Carmax visit before showing up at the dealer is always best. It gives you an idea of what to expect and helps speed things along.
3. Can I sell my car in the middle of the trade process? If your speaking of selling your car outright that can take place anytime before taking delivery of the new car. This is one of the benefits of factory ordering a car, during the 2-3 months that your waiting on your new car you can find a retail buyer for your old one. The dealer should also be willing to handle an "in & out" where they show your old car as a trade in and you recieve tax credits for the amount you retailed your car for.
3. If my original dealer is offering a really really good price, should I go for it? Sure, if you have enjoyed your previous experience and the current pricing is competitive and fair, why not do buisness with your current dealer. Also in our market your local dealerships provide complimentary maintainance for the first 2 years. That may benefit you also.
4. Is there a way to lock down the deal? I've heard of some manager backing out of someone's signed deal. If pricing is available(currently not available on 06 G35's) you should be able to get your deal in writing upon ordering the car. Most dealer's will give you a printed "buyer's order" reflecting your deal and your deposit.
5. Once I leave a deposit, would it ever be refundable? Not sure about all states, but most do not allow the dealer to keep a deposit if delivery is not taken of the new car. You should have the dealer put this in writing on the buyer's order or order write up.
Hope this helps, and if there is anything I can help you with let me know.
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Originally Posted by NorthSideDealer
As a dealer , here is the perspective from us:
1. When do I mention I have a trade? You can mention this anytime, good advice is to get the car appraised by the dealer when you order the new car. If you have alternative transportation and you like the trade number most dealers will allow you to trade early and lock in that trade number. A visit to Carmax always helps to validate the trade value, and makes sure the dealer isn't holding on your trade. The benefit of pre-trading is locking in a number that is subject to change in the 60-90 days that the order will take. If this is your only transportation, most dealers would be willing to provide you with a loaner for the last few weeks before your new car arrives.
2. When do I turn in my trade? If you wait to trade til when you take delivery, taking care of the Carmax visit before showing up at the dealer is always best. It gives you an idea of what to expect and helps speed things along.
3. Can I sell my car in the middle of the trade process? If your speaking of selling your car outright that can take place anytime before taking delivery of the new car. This is one of the benefits of factory ordering a car, during the 2-3 months that your waiting on your new car you can find a retail buyer for your old one. The dealer should also be willing to handle an "in & out" where they show your old car as a trade in and you recieve tax credits for the amount you retailed your car for.
3. If my original dealer is offering a really really good price, should I go for it? Sure, if you have enjoyed your previous experience and the current pricing is competitive and fair, why not do buisness with your current dealer. Also in our market your local dealerships provide complimentary maintainance for the first 2 years. That may benefit you also.
4. Is there a way to lock down the deal? I've heard of some manager backing out of someone's signed deal. If pricing is available(currently not available on 06 G35's) you should be able to get your deal in writing upon ordering the car. Most dealer's will give you a printed "buyer's order" reflecting your deal and your deposit.
5. Once I leave a deposit, would it ever be refundable? Not sure about all states, but most do not allow the dealer to keep a deposit if delivery is not taken of the new car. You should have the dealer put this in writing on the buyer's order or order write up.
Hope this helps, and if there is anything I can help you with let me know.
1. When do I mention I have a trade? You can mention this anytime, good advice is to get the car appraised by the dealer when you order the new car. If you have alternative transportation and you like the trade number most dealers will allow you to trade early and lock in that trade number. A visit to Carmax always helps to validate the trade value, and makes sure the dealer isn't holding on your trade. The benefit of pre-trading is locking in a number that is subject to change in the 60-90 days that the order will take. If this is your only transportation, most dealers would be willing to provide you with a loaner for the last few weeks before your new car arrives.
2. When do I turn in my trade? If you wait to trade til when you take delivery, taking care of the Carmax visit before showing up at the dealer is always best. It gives you an idea of what to expect and helps speed things along.
3. Can I sell my car in the middle of the trade process? If your speaking of selling your car outright that can take place anytime before taking delivery of the new car. This is one of the benefits of factory ordering a car, during the 2-3 months that your waiting on your new car you can find a retail buyer for your old one. The dealer should also be willing to handle an "in & out" where they show your old car as a trade in and you recieve tax credits for the amount you retailed your car for.
3. If my original dealer is offering a really really good price, should I go for it? Sure, if you have enjoyed your previous experience and the current pricing is competitive and fair, why not do buisness with your current dealer. Also in our market your local dealerships provide complimentary maintainance for the first 2 years. That may benefit you also.
4. Is there a way to lock down the deal? I've heard of some manager backing out of someone's signed deal. If pricing is available(currently not available on 06 G35's) you should be able to get your deal in writing upon ordering the car. Most dealer's will give you a printed "buyer's order" reflecting your deal and your deposit.
5. Once I leave a deposit, would it ever be refundable? Not sure about all states, but most do not allow the dealer to keep a deposit if delivery is not taken of the new car. You should have the dealer put this in writing on the buyer's order or order write up.
Hope this helps, and if there is anything I can help you with let me know.
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is it best to have a deal written up when the 06 prices are in?
How much value did 05's lose this late in the year? (as in depreciation) If I can get a fully loaded 05, that might sway my decision. I just don't know how much to offer. If they are willing to go 200 over invoice now for an 06, what is a good offer for a fully loaded 05?
How much value did 05's lose this late in the year? (as in depreciation) If I can get a fully loaded 05, that might sway my decision. I just don't know how much to offer. If they are willing to go 200 over invoice now for an 06, what is a good offer for a fully loaded 05?
