Rule of thumb always go down to your local rim shop and look at the wheels in person. For those that can not afford a premium wheel this is the options out there there was another tread about the same subject people want staggard wheels with lips but they aren't aware that to get the lips the wheels are curved some more than others it's a cast 1 piece wheel and to some that's okay as long as it's not to heavy but the trade off is a bent wheel, problems balancing the wheels etc...