Winter time issues
I don't even carry a shovel or kitty litter anymore.
I've actually gone out and tried to get this car stuck and just can't do it. Of course, a little more ground clearance in the winter would come in handy.
I wish I didn't the awd, but I do. When I was shopping for my g35, they had a brand new 2008 black/black 6mt sedan for $28k otd after rebates. This was right when the economy tanked. I was so tempted to pull the trigger, but I valued awd over 6mt due to my specific needs.
I've actually gone out and tried to get this car stuck and just can't do it. Of course, a little more ground clearance in the winter would come in handy.

I wish I didn't the awd, but I do. When I was shopping for my g35, they had a brand new 2008 black/black 6mt sedan for $28k otd after rebates. This was right when the economy tanked. I was so tempted to pull the trigger, but I valued awd over 6mt due to my specific needs.
AWD with Goodyear Eagle RS-As
I too live in the KC Metro area, and this week, our snowfall was epic, 13" plus at my house. Our '06 G35x sedan with Goodyear Eagle RS-As performed spectacularly. I do turn off the VDC under snow/ice conditions, but the car can literally plow fresh snow. Entering our garage from an untouched uphill driveway, with a coat of ice from freezing drizzle just before the snow, it pushed in enough snow to fill a 40 gallon barrel.
I have praised the Eagle RS-A, but I consider it a great tire at a bad price, just too darn high. I have bought replacement Yokohama and Falken in the past, on similar cars, at a lower price, with acceptable results, keeping in mind how much money I saved.
For all-season, if I have the bucks, I go for the Goodyears.
I have praised the Eagle RS-A, but I consider it a great tire at a bad price, just too darn high. I have bought replacement Yokohama and Falken in the past, on similar cars, at a lower price, with acceptable results, keeping in mind how much money I saved.
For all-season, if I have the bucks, I go for the Goodyears.
I too live in the KC Metro area, and this week, our snowfall was epic, 13" plus at my house. Our '06 G35x sedan with Goodyear Eagle RS-As performed spectacularly. I do turn off the VDC under snow/ice conditions, but the car can literally plow fresh snow. Entering our garage from an untouched uphill driveway, with a coat of ice from freezing drizzle just before the snow, it pushed in enough snow to fill a 40 gallon barrel.
I have praised the Eagle RS-A, but I consider it a great tire at a bad price, just too darn high. I have bought replacement Yokohama and Falken in the past, on similar cars, at a lower price, with acceptable results, keeping in mind how much money I saved.
For all-season, if I have the bucks, I go for the Goodyears.
I have praised the Eagle RS-A, but I consider it a great tire at a bad price, just too darn high. I have bought replacement Yokohama and Falken in the past, on similar cars, at a lower price, with acceptable results, keeping in mind how much money I saved.
For all-season, if I have the bucks, I go for the Goodyears.
Vdc
I only learned of turning VDC off by reading in this forum. I don't know the technical explanation, but in practice it appears NOT to apply braking forces to driven wheels that slip under accelleration. On snow and ice, in my practice, the driver experiences customary road feel and can make the customary throttle and steering changes to combat wheel slippage, without the (unwanted) assistance of a driving computer.
Perhaps a more seasoned driver will chime in with a more comprehensive explanation.
Perhaps a more seasoned driver will chime in with a more comprehensive explanation.
I can understand turning off VDC to get going on an ultra slick surface since turning off the system dumbs down the traction control, but once rolling, turn it back on. The stability control system in this car has saved my butt numerous times on slick snow and ice. It can react far quicker than I can. Yes, it's abrupt sometimes, but it's amazing how well it works. There's no way I could get around in the snow without the VDC and electronic traction control systems engaged most of the time.
I wouldn't say I am a big fan of awd, I would much rather be in Florida driving 6mt rwd. The whole reason I started replying is just to say rwd+snow works for most but not all because some swear that's all you need. Especially if you live in a snowy city and need to parallel park. Yes, on the go rwd+snow may be better than awd+all season but my argument was for parallel park. Put a rwd+snow and an awd+all season, dump them into a parallel spot with 12 inches of snow. The awd will be home in time for dinner while the rwd will "most likely" be stranded.
I am not at all against rwd and do envy you guys with rwd+6mt.
This is my second awd car. I drove a m/t Eagle Talon tsi for about 5 or 6 years so I've driven awd for 12 years in NY. Not once was I stuck. Uphill, downhill, slushy, soft snow, hard snow, ice, parallel park, you name it.
I am not at all against rwd and do envy you guys with rwd+6mt.
This is my second awd car. I drove a m/t Eagle Talon tsi for about 5 or 6 years so I've driven awd for 12 years in NY. Not once was I stuck. Uphill, downhill, slushy, soft snow, hard snow, ice, parallel park, you name it.
I can understand turning off VDC to get going on an ultra slick surface since turning off the system dumbs down the traction control, but once rolling, turn it back on. The stability control system in this car has saved my butt numerous times on slick snow and ice. There's no way I could get around in the snow without the VDC and electronic traction control systems engaged most of the time.
With VDC on, it just goes slip slip and keeps me going straight.
Get snow tires. They don't just help in snow, they also help in colder temperatures. I have no problems getting around with my snow tires + RWD and we get anywhere from a dusting of snow to 12" in St. Louis.
I've never been stuck once. It is silly to say that snow tires are unnecessary if you're getting stuck
I've never been stuck once. It is silly to say that snow tires are unnecessary if you're getting stuck
I can understand turning off VDC to get going on an ultra slick surface since turning off the system dumbs down the traction control, but once rolling, turn it back on. The stability control system in this car has saved my butt numerous times on slick snow and ice. It can react far quicker than I can. Yes, it's abrupt sometimes, but it's amazing how well it works. There's no way I could get around in the snow without the VDC and electronic traction control systems engaged most of the time.
That's my strategy as well. I only turn the VDC off when i'm trying to park or push through some deep snow that I could possibly get stuck in. If i don't, the ABS and T/C are fighting me all the way.
However, turning the VDC off...it's still active. I've spen up my tires pretty well trying to drift in a snowed over parking lot and was surprised to see my SLIP light come on. SO it's still active, but just with higher limits.
Once i get moving however, i turn the VDC back on. It's quite effective, and i praise the YAW sensor on the system in the snow as it's done a GREAT job keeping the car stable when driving through snowy corners. I've experimented in parking lots with it on and off and it does a good job keeping the car tracking straight ahead.
Actually...out of 365 days a year, the only time i turn the VDC off is either at the drag strip, or when manuvering slowly in deep snow.
HAHA...you need to come down to the Big Apple...New York City. 
You will run out of gas trying to find a parking spot.

You will run out of gas trying to find a parking spot.
http://blog.***stein.com/wp-content/...2/parking1.jpg
Mr BMW is too afraid to try to dig his car in there, so he leaves it in the lane...where a bus or plow will nail it eventually. Of course, not every road is this wide in the city.
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