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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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0:60 times for the 6mt

I just read in C&D the 350Z 30th anniversary with 300 horses and 260 lbxft torque did 0:60 5.6 sec and 1/4 mile: 14.1 sec. I guess since the 6mt G35 has the same powertrain but 150 lbs extra, it must be able to do: 0:60 5.8 and 1/4 mile in 14.4.
What do you guys think?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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There's more to it than just weight. I think those numbers sounds good.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Anyone find it interesting that the 300hp Z is actually a tick slower than the 287hp Z? That's what happens when you trade midrange power for topend power (287hp/270ft/lbs vs 300hp/260ft/lbs).

As for the G35 sedan MT, yes, I think 5.8 0-60 would be correct regardless if it's an 03.5/04 or the "more powerful" 05. The 5.8 0-60 also assumes you hook up offf the line which is a rarity with the on/off nature of Nissan clutches. In most drivers hands, the 6MT will do 0-60 in the lower 6s.....or worse. Most people aren't good drivers. It's hilarous to watch or read about people that think they're great drivers and then they go to the track and realize that they're not so great and that what they thought was good traction is pure crap.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
Anyone find it interesting that the 300hp Z is actually a tick slower than the 287hp Z? That's what happens when you trade midrange power for topend power (287hp/270ft/lbs vs 300hp/260ft/lbs).

As for the G35 sedan MT, yes, I think 5.8 0-60 would be correct regardless if it's an 03.5/04 or the "more powerful" 05. The 5.8 0-60 also assumes you hook up offf the line which is a rarity with the on/off nature of Nissan clutches. In most drivers hands, the 6MT will do 0-60 in the lower 6s.....or worse. Most people aren't good drivers. It's hilarous to watch or read about people that think they're great drivers and then they go to the track and realize that they're not so great and that what they thought was good traction is pure crap.
So you implying most of them will lose to an A/T driver with the same car? Not that I am in favor of A/T, not even for a sec, I wish my Gx comes with MT. I will be the first on line to trade it in if they are coming with Gx MT. Till this day, I still can't get used to A/T.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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For 0-60 cases only, I'd be willing to be most auto's would beat most 6mt drivers on this board. The 6mt on the G35 isn't the EASIEST to drive and finding the right launch RPM can be tricky. Light to light or 0-60 I'd probably say an auto would beat a 6mt 7/10 times. 1/4 mile is a different story and so is top-speed run.

When cars start getting in the sub-6 second category, it's hard for manuals to outpace autos in 0-60. Take a look at the Pontiac GTO, it's faster in 4 spd auto form then it is in 6spd (both 0-60 and 1/4 mile), same goes for the Benz SLK350.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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I don't know if I would agree on that assumption Brian V. Your right the 6mt is tricky to launch. I have driven quite a few AT loaners. the thing that bugs me about them is that lag right on launch. It keeps the wheels from spining too much but you also lose out on precious time.

In mine I have found a good slip of the clutch and a wee bit of wheelspin gives me the fastest launch.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianV
For 0-60 cases only, I'd be willing to be most auto's would beat most 6mt drivers on this board. The 6mt on the G35 isn't the EASIEST to drive and finding the right launch RPM can be tricky. Light to light or 0-60 I'd probably say an auto would beat a 6mt 7/10 times. 1/4 mile is a different story and so is top-speed run.

When cars start getting in the sub-6 second category, it's hard for manuals to outpace autos in 0-60. Take a look at the Pontiac GTO, it's faster in 4 spd auto form then it is in 6spd (both 0-60 and 1/4 mile), same goes for the Benz SLK350.
Be prepare for some back fires on your assumption.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianV
For 0-60 cases only, I'd be willing to be most auto's would beat most 6mt drivers on this board. The 6mt on the G35 isn't the EASIEST to drive and finding the right launch RPM can be tricky. Light to light or 0-60 I'd probably say an auto would beat a 6mt 7/10 times. 1/4 mile is a different story and so is top-speed run.

When cars start getting in the sub-6 second category, it's hard for manuals to outpace autos in 0-60. Take a look at the Pontiac GTO, it's faster in 4 spd auto form then it is in 6spd (both 0-60 and 1/4 mile), same goes for the Benz SLK350.
What are you "consistant" track times with your G35 Sedan? How do you launch?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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I think my 6.2 sec, 260 HP A.T is fine for me... 5.8, 6.2 . It took you longer to read this message than the difference between the 260, 287 or 300 HP car 0-60 times (LOL).
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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A 2005 G35 coupe 6 speed can definetly hit 14.0...probably 13.9 with a good driver
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gq916
A 2005 G35 coupe 6 speed can definetly hit 14.0...probably 13.9 with a good driver
Any car capable of 96-97mph in the 1/4 mile is technically capable of 13s. It all depends on if you can yank a 1.9 second 60' which isn't going to happen on street tires.

Your right the 6mt is tricky to launch. I have driven quite a few AT loaners. the thing that bugs me about them is that lag right on launch. It keeps the wheels from spining too much but you also lose out on precious time.
Simply turn off the traction control, put the shifter in 1, foot on brake, foot resting on gas, foot 50% on gas and release the brake a split second later (flash stall). The tires will spin to your hearts desire if you go WOT immediately and will even spin them in 2nd quite a ways at 40mph. My G will fishtail all I want if I keep my foot buried. It's good for impressing ricers, but that's about it. With just the right amount of flash stall on the torque converter and throttle modulation in 1st, I can get off the line with a little bit of spin and almost instantly come off around 2800-3000rpms. No bog and no excessive time wasted spinning or modulating clutch.

When cars start getting in the sub-6 second category, it's hard for manuals to outpace autos in 0-60. Take a look at the Pontiac GTO, it's faster in 4 spd auto form then it is in 6spd (both 0-60 and 1/4 mile), same goes for the Benz SLK350.
Amen. When you've got a lot torque, you don't need all the torque multiplication of a manual's gearing. Look at some of the superpro street drag cars. They have 500+ cubic inch motors and Powerglide autos which only have 2 gears. Autos are also a lot easier on drivetrain components because the auto does have near the driveline shock on launch and shifts. There's a reason the fastest LS1s in this country are all autos.

1) More consistent
2) Harder launch
3) Less broken parts
 

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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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dont forget that an A/T can shift gears at 1/100th of a second.. try that with your MT..
 
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 02:29 AM
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Arent most of the fastest LS1 auto on a so called custom tranny that has a high stall? If us owners also do this so called high stall mod I bet many of them could see anywhere from .1-.3 improvement in their times I assume..
 
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by deadmanincbh
Arent most of the fastest LS1 auto on a so called custom tranny that has a high stall? If us owners also do this so called high stall mod I bet many of them could see anywhere from .1-.3 improvement in their times I assume..
Depends on what you mean by "custom". Most of them do run higher stall torque converters (3000-4000rpm stalls) and beefed up bands and pumps in the 4L60E, but it's nothing terribly extreme. They probably put about $2000 into the tranny. The T56 6 speed can't take nearly the amount of power the auto can and when the T56 goes, it's a lot more expensive than $2000 because it usually takes a couple gears, clutch, and flywheel with it.
 
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