Battle Of The Sedans!
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Originally Posted by 05Blk
Hey guys I was driving by and i saw the new Altima SE-r. They looked pretty quick. Without looking at 1/4 times, I need some opinions. Stock 05 Tiptronic G35 vs a stock 6MT Se-r Altima From a stop. I think they Altima might pull, but by how much? its has 260 vs 280, but its manuel. If anyone has input, i just wanted to know. If you guys really want you can refer to the 1/4 times to make your arguments better.
Thanks
Nick
Thanks
Nick
Now the G has 20 more ponies so I'd say fairly even.......Out of the hole would definitely favour the G with rear drive.
C.
Originally Posted by Skyline_G35
I have a 6mt sedan g35 (with stillen exhaust) and I raced a altima 3.5 (non se-r) and I barely won. I doubt that a g35 auto would be able to beat a altima 3.5 se-r manual.
Sorry to say but you dont know how to drive! If you barley beat the 3.5
That is just my opinion. Anymore thoughts guys?
Originally Posted by 05Blk
Sorry to say but you dont know how to drive! If you barley beat the 3.5
That is just my opinion. Anymore thoughts guys?
That is just my opinion. Anymore thoughts guys?
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I've had newer Altimas trying to get me to race. So far they were able to keep up through the first two gears before I was able to pull from them. On the highway at speeds of 60mph, I have had them come up on my tail -- I drop a gear and watch them get smaller in my rear-view mirror. Haven't come across a SE-R yet though.
Definitely the G has more pull at the higher end.
Definitely the G has more pull at the higher end.
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Originally Posted by 05Blk
Sorry to say but you dont know how to drive! If you barley beat the 3.5
That is just my opinion. Anymore thoughts guys?
That is just my opinion. Anymore thoughts guys?
Altima 3.5 5-speeds are deceptively quick cars. I owned one for over three years. They're closer to 400 pounds lighter (not 100 pounds as previously mentioned) lighter than a comparably equipped G and run sub six-second zero to 60 times. I remember Motorweek (the PBS show) tested a 2002 3.5 5MT that ran the quarter-mile in 14.1 seconds at 101 mph. A few months later they tested a G35 5AT that ran it in 14.8 at 96 mph.
Altimas are also rattletraps and, comparatively speaking, drive like junk compared with the G35. They handle like the FWD family sedans they are, ride horribly in 3.5 guise and exhibit exhorbitant torque steer. That being said, if you see a 5MT model at a stoplight and he wants to give you a run, ask yourself this: Do I really want to get walked by an Altima? Because it could very well happen.
[Edit: One further note: Altima 3.5 4ATs are slugs. They run mid 15-second quarter miles and are most definitely the cars you're outaccelerating on the highway. Terrible automatic transmisison. And on a related note, the 5MT models are extremely rare. They make 6MT G35 sedans look like Explorers in their commonness on the road.]
Last edited by JKWright; Jul 4, 2005 at 07:30 PM.
I drove the Altima before buying my G and it is quick... but the torque steer was a real turn off (not as bad as the Maxima though). But - I wouldn't back down from racing one in my sedan!
04 max AT - nice car with tons of buttons, but the torque steer and car weight were too much.
05 altima 3.5 AT- car pulled real hard (much better than the maxima). The handling was ok compared to the max, but the interior quality was really poor.
04 G AT - The car felt like it was a part of the road and pulled harder than both cars. The interior finish was good. The handling/power ratio was excellent.
I asked about the altima se-r and when they said the 30,500 sticker was solid and wouldn't back off, I said well I know being late october the G will come closer to invoice. The se-r didn't seem to be more of a performance car and I'd spend close to the same money (plus/minus 1k depending on options). It made my choice rather easy, assuming I could pull off the financing!
05 altima 3.5 AT- car pulled real hard (much better than the maxima). The handling was ok compared to the max, but the interior quality was really poor.
04 G AT - The car felt like it was a part of the road and pulled harder than both cars. The interior finish was good. The handling/power ratio was excellent.
I asked about the altima se-r and when they said the 30,500 sticker was solid and wouldn't back off, I said well I know being late october the G will come closer to invoice. The se-r didn't seem to be more of a performance car and I'd spend close to the same money (plus/minus 1k depending on options). It made my choice rather easy, assuming I could pull off the financing!
Originally Posted by JKWright
I have one: You don't know what you're talking about.
Altima 3.5 5-speeds are deceptively quick cars. I owned one for over three years. They're closer to 400 pounds lighter (not 100 pounds as previously mentioned) lighter than a comparably equipped G and run sub six-second zero to 60 times. I remember Motorweek (the PBS show) tested a 2002 3.5 5MT that ran the quarter-mile in 14.1 seconds at 101 mph. A few months later they tested a G35 5AT that ran it in 14.8 at 96 mph.
Altimas are also rattletraps and, comparatively speaking, drive like junk compared with the G35. They handle like the FWD family sedans they are, ride horribly in 3.5 guise and exhibit exhorbitant torque steer. That being said, if you see a 5MT model at a stoplight and he wants to give you a run, ask yourself this: Do I really want to get walked by an Altima? Because it could very well happen.
[Edit: One further note: Altima 3.5 4ATs are slugs. They run mid 15-second quarter miles and are most definitely the cars you're outaccelerating on the highway. Terrible automatic transmisison. And on a related note, the 5MT models are extremely rare. They make 6MT G35 sedans look like Explorers in their commonness on the road.]
Altima 3.5 5-speeds are deceptively quick cars. I owned one for over three years. They're closer to 400 pounds lighter (not 100 pounds as previously mentioned) lighter than a comparably equipped G and run sub six-second zero to 60 times. I remember Motorweek (the PBS show) tested a 2002 3.5 5MT that ran the quarter-mile in 14.1 seconds at 101 mph. A few months later they tested a G35 5AT that ran it in 14.8 at 96 mph.
Altimas are also rattletraps and, comparatively speaking, drive like junk compared with the G35. They handle like the FWD family sedans they are, ride horribly in 3.5 guise and exhibit exhorbitant torque steer. That being said, if you see a 5MT model at a stoplight and he wants to give you a run, ask yourself this: Do I really want to get walked by an Altima? Because it could very well happen.
[Edit: One further note: Altima 3.5 4ATs are slugs. They run mid 15-second quarter miles and are most definitely the cars you're outaccelerating on the highway. Terrible automatic transmisison. And on a related note, the 5MT models are extremely rare. They make 6MT G35 sedans look like Explorers in their commonness on the road.]
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I prefer the G to the Alti. I bought an Alti back in October of 01 when they first came out; loved it initially but had so many issues with it. Bought my first G this past November and it's no comparison. Even looked at getting annother (used one) for my wife after her truck died on us. I have to agree with GEE the fit and finish goes to the G, who cares about speed when you have the design/finish and luxury of the G compared to the Altima at rellatively the same price.
Originally Posted by crazybeckhams_G
I prefer the G to the Alti. I bought an Alti back in October of 01 when they first came out; loved it initially but had so many issues with it. Bought my first G this past November and it's no comparison. Even looked at getting annother (used one) for my wife after her truck died on us. I have to agree with GEE the fit and finish goes to the G, who cares about speed when you have the design/finish and luxury of the G compared to the Altima at rellatively the same price.
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Originally Posted by JKWright
I have one: You don't know what you're talking about.
Altima 3.5 5-speeds are deceptively quick cars. I owned one for over three years. They're closer to 400 pounds lighter (not 100 pounds as previously mentioned) lighter than a comparably equipped G and run sub six-second zero to 60 times. I remember Motorweek (the PBS show) tested a 2002 3.5 5MT that ran the quarter-mile in 14.1 seconds at 101 mph. A few months later they tested a G35 5AT that ran it in 14.8 at 96 mph.
Altimas are also rattletraps and, comparatively speaking, drive like junk compared with the G35. They handle like the FWD family sedans they are, ride horribly in 3.5 guise and exhibit exhorbitant torque steer. That being said, if you see a 5MT model at a stoplight and he wants to give you a run, ask yourself this: Do I really want to get walked by an Altima? Because it could very well happen.
[Edit: One further note: Altima 3.5 4ATs are slugs. They run mid 15-second quarter miles and are most definitely the cars you're outaccelerating on the highway. Terrible automatic transmisison. And on a related note, the 5MT models are extremely rare. They make 6MT G35 sedans look like Explorers in their commonness on the road.]
Altima 3.5 5-speeds are deceptively quick cars. I owned one for over three years. They're closer to 400 pounds lighter (not 100 pounds as previously mentioned) lighter than a comparably equipped G and run sub six-second zero to 60 times. I remember Motorweek (the PBS show) tested a 2002 3.5 5MT that ran the quarter-mile in 14.1 seconds at 101 mph. A few months later they tested a G35 5AT that ran it in 14.8 at 96 mph.
Altimas are also rattletraps and, comparatively speaking, drive like junk compared with the G35. They handle like the FWD family sedans they are, ride horribly in 3.5 guise and exhibit exhorbitant torque steer. That being said, if you see a 5MT model at a stoplight and he wants to give you a run, ask yourself this: Do I really want to get walked by an Altima? Because it could very well happen.
[Edit: One further note: Altima 3.5 4ATs are slugs. They run mid 15-second quarter miles and are most definitely the cars you're outaccelerating on the highway. Terrible automatic transmisison. And on a related note, the 5MT models are extremely rare. They make 6MT G35 sedans look like Explorers in their commonness on the road.]
After reading this I was wondering what the weight diff was
As per Dealer web site specs' for 2005 year model:
G35 auto 3,468
SE-R 6MT 3,335
SE-R is just 133lbs pounds lighter for these two same year cars
Originally Posted by Bruce007
After reading this I was wondering what the weight diff was
As per Dealer web site specs' for 2005 year model:
G35 auto 3,468
SE-R 6MT 3,335
SE-R is just 133lbs pounds lighter for these two same year cars
As per Dealer web site specs' for 2005 year model:
G35 auto 3,468
SE-R 6MT 3,335
SE-R is just 133lbs pounds lighter for these two same year cars
Originally Posted by madchef
The SE-R is lighter by about 100lbs, and has around 20ft/lbs less torque at peak....
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I got the thumbs-up from a couple of teenagers in an Altima SE-R right after I blew their doors off during a 3rd-gear rolling start 'event'. In very short order I was way more than a carlength ahead and the 'event' was called to a halt. Not sure about how it would go down from a standstill though.
..Of course, I'm pretty much the best driver in the world so... y'know. <shrugs>
..Of course, I'm pretty much the best driver in the world so... y'know. <shrugs>
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Originally Posted by JKWright
I have one: You don't know what you're talking about.
Altima 3.5 5-speeds are deceptively quick cars. I owned one for over three years. They're closer to 400 pounds lighter (not 100 pounds as previously mentioned) lighter than a comparably equipped G and run sub six-second zero to 60 times. I remember Motorweek (the PBS show) tested a 2002 3.5 5MT that ran the quarter-mile in 14.1 seconds at 101 mph. A few months later they tested a G35 5AT that ran it in 14.8 at 96 mph.
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Altima 3.5 5-speeds are deceptively quick cars. I owned one for over three years. They're closer to 400 pounds lighter (not 100 pounds as previously mentioned) lighter than a comparably equipped G and run sub six-second zero to 60 times. I remember Motorweek (the PBS show) tested a 2002 3.5 5MT that ran the quarter-mile in 14.1 seconds at 101 mph. A few months later they tested a G35 5AT that ran it in 14.8 at 96 mph.
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http://automobilemag.com/test_data//index1.html
I say that to say that mag racing is useless because of the varying conditions as well as oftentimes questionable accuracy.
Last edited by KAHBOOM; Jul 6, 2005 at 02:42 PM.