Rain and snow handling?
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From: Rothesay, New Brunswick, Canada
Originally Posted by SGT
Does the same apply to the X, as well? Since it's AWD, does it really need two separate sets of tires?
Originally Posted by SGT
Does the same apply to the X, as well? Since it's AWD, does it really need two separate sets of tires?
.Wayne
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From: Toronto, GTA north
Originally Posted by SGT
Does the same apply to the X, as well? Since it's AWD, does it really need two separate sets of tires?
FWIW....
One the attributes of dedicated winter tires that most peeps don't consider is stopping capabilities.
Snows have a huge advantage.
Also, when it comes to stopping, it doesn't matter whether it's RWD or AWD.
My plan is to invest in a set of snows in Sept/Oct time frame. I also live in the Chicago area and have the 6MT, but I knew going into this that this is what I was going to have to do.
Originally Posted by inTgr8r
I know I'm an O.F. but........
remind me again why we're discussing snow tires in July

true that, why are we?, it wasn't that long ago we were moaning about the stupid snow and when it was going to end. Man it's hot out today though, I think I am going to grab a brewski and go sit in the shade in the backyard and think cool thoughts and rest my O.F. bones
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Recognizing that it is July, those of you who purchased snows and rims, may I ask where you bought them and about what you paid? We don't get much snow in St. Louis, but I before I bought the G had only driven front wheel drive cars.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by inTgr8r
I know I'm an O.F. but........
remind me again why we're discussing snow tires in July

My choices seem to be:
Summer tires and winter tires. Pro: Best performance in the summer. Con: The car would have to wear the snows from the beginning of fall to the end of spring.
All-season tires and winter tires. Pro: Winter tires would only be necessary in actual winter. Con: Performance compromise compared to summer tires.
Summer tires and all-season tires. Pro: Summer performance without so much sacrifice in spring and fall. Con: Don't know how the all-seasons will run in the snow.
Summer tires, all-season tires, and winter tires. Pro: Best performance for each season. Con: Expense, and way too much switching around.
All-season tires all the time. Pro: No switching around, least expense. Con: Performance compromise, don't know how the all-seasons will run in the snow.
I have the much criticized EL42s all season tires, and I've had pretty good luck with them in the driving I've done.
Note, I've only driven it 2 winters in southern Oklahoma, therefore I've only had one case where there has been a significant amount of snow I've had to drive in. And in that case, it still handled fairly well on the turnpike where the main scare was changing lanes because of the builtup slush down the center of each lane.
I even still have decent tread life remaining at 17000 miles.
The only issue I have is some superficial damage in the sidewall of one tire that the tire store told me was only a cosmetic issue. If I had to buy a tire, i would have stuck with the EL42, remounted the spare, so I would at least have had matching tires on an axle.
Note, I've only driven it 2 winters in southern Oklahoma, therefore I've only had one case where there has been a significant amount of snow I've had to drive in. And in that case, it still handled fairly well on the turnpike where the main scare was changing lanes because of the builtup slush down the center of each lane.
I even still have decent tread life remaining at 17000 miles.
The only issue I have is some superficial damage in the sidewall of one tire that the tire store told me was only a cosmetic issue. If I had to buy a tire, i would have stuck with the EL42, remounted the spare, so I would at least have had matching tires on an axle.
I moved to the Midwest from Texas a year ago (where we didn't even know what snow looked like) and, having just bought a G35 sedan, have to deal with the inevitable...winter before long. Some fellow M/W folks have echoed the plight of not knowing one day to next whether it'll be cold and rainy or cold and snow/sleet/ice during this time.
I have decided, at least for me, to can the stock Goodyears ASAP and go for a set of Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S for the majority of the time, and a set of Blizzacks on 16" wheels for the nasty stuff. I hate the thought of having to change tires/wheels, but it's the price we seemingly have to pay to drive a high-performance RWD car in our neck of the woods.
I would love to think that the Pirelli's would handle everything all the time, but there are huge hills around here, and I sure would hate to get stuck on one come winter...
. Would they really do the job here year round?
I have decided, at least for me, to can the stock Goodyears ASAP and go for a set of Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S for the majority of the time, and a set of Blizzacks on 16" wheels for the nasty stuff. I hate the thought of having to change tires/wheels, but it's the price we seemingly have to pay to drive a high-performance RWD car in our neck of the woods.
I would love to think that the Pirelli's would handle everything all the time, but there are huge hills around here, and I sure would hate to get stuck on one come winter...
. Would they really do the job here year round?
Last edited by davistld01; Jul 11, 2005 at 10:15 PM.
Originally Posted by davistld01
I would love to think that the Pirelli's would handle everything all the time, but there are huge hills around here, and I sure would hate to get stuck on one come winter...
. Would they really do the job here year round?
. Would they really do the job here year round?
. I have used Yokohoma Guardex, Nokian Hakkapalettas, and Blizzak snows and they all performed fantastically in the snow.Okay, enough snow talk, let's get back to enjoying summer
.Wayne
Originally Posted by kevink
Who actually wants to think about snow in the winter?
In the summer, when it is getting to the upper 90's, is when snow doesn't seem so bad.
In the summer, when it is getting to the upper 90's, is when snow doesn't seem so bad.
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From: Rothesay, New Brunswick, Canada
Originally Posted by dwasifar
Because I'm trying to figure out how good a daily driver this car will be when the weather gets cold and/or wet.
My choices seem to be:
Summer tires and winter tires. Pro: Best performance in the summer. Con: The car would have to wear the snows from the beginning of fall to the end of spring.
All-season tires and winter tires. Pro: Winter tires would only be necessary in actual winter. Con: Performance compromise compared to summer tires.
Summer tires and all-season tires. Pro: Summer performance without so much sacrifice in spring and fall. Con: Don't know how the all-seasons will run in the snow.
Summer tires, all-season tires, and winter tires. Pro: Best performance for each season. Con: Expense, and way too much switching around.
All-season tires all the time. Pro: No switching around, least expense. Con: Performance compromise, don't know how the all-seasons will run in the snow.
My choices seem to be:
Summer tires and winter tires. Pro: Best performance in the summer. Con: The car would have to wear the snows from the beginning of fall to the end of spring.
All-season tires and winter tires. Pro: Winter tires would only be necessary in actual winter. Con: Performance compromise compared to summer tires.
Summer tires and all-season tires. Pro: Summer performance without so much sacrifice in spring and fall. Con: Don't know how the all-seasons will run in the snow.
Summer tires, all-season tires, and winter tires. Pro: Best performance for each season. Con: Expense, and way too much switching around.
All-season tires all the time. Pro: No switching around, least expense. Con: Performance compromise, don't know how the all-seasons will run in the snow.
There only seems to be one realistic choice to me dwasifar! I'll take whats behind door number one please! The biggest pro (which should out weight ANY cons) with choosing dedicated winters is the added safety you are providing to your G and MOST IMPORTANTLY YOURSELF!!
Just my .02 cents.
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From: Toronto, GTA north
Originally Posted by canuck
There only seems to be one realistic choice to me dwasifar! I'll take whats behind door number one please! The biggest pro (which should out weight ANY cons) with choosing dedicated winters is the added safety you are providing to your G and MOST IMPORTANTLY YOURSELF!!
Just my .02 cents.
Just my .02 cents.




