5.1 seconds for 0-60mph? 12.8 seconds for 0-100mph(I was rubbing my eyes)? Come on Evo and M3 do that in 4.8 and IS350 is just 0.3 seconds slower? I thought our G is very fast, and it has only been three years, things've changed already? Third place isn't that bad, actually I am happy enough:smile:. Our G35 sedan is the cheapest in the top four.

 

Somebody just found out there's a mistake by Car and Driver, & there's only 74 points for the BMW 330i in "Vehicle", according to the numbers published by them

That would mean 212 points and tied first position with Lexus.

8+7+3+4+3+7+9+7+9+0+17= 74 ???? not 75

Link : http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/BAHILL99/13.jpg

 

Whoah boy. Where were Csaba and the other editors?

I've been going on and on for so long about loving the writing style of this mag, the wife just renewed the subscription, for three years... LAST WEEK. What a bummer.

One more thing about the lex's numbers. Imagine if the 14.6 g can get a 14.2/14.1 in better conditions, what the hell that 13.7 for the IS will turn into under the same conditions. 13.4? 13.3? Those are remarkably close to the average Camaro SS numbers...

 

Exactly. Sign me up I love fast 4 doors. The IS350 may be the deal of the century for those that want to go fast in style and for not a lot of cash outlay.

As for pricing, a non-Nav IS350 is estimated to be priced in the $37-38K range and the nav at ~$40K. It's really not that far off seeing the IS350 really doesn't have a base model.

 

Funny thing is that the lexus site says the 0-60 is 5.6. http://www.thenewis.com/?s_ocid=20263

click on tour, speed and then the engine area

 

I'm with MikeyMike...pretty cool that the G35 made a strong showing in cars that are three years newer in design and between $6-8k more. I'm a big BMW fan and having owned a E46 328i I know what amazing cars they are and I'm not a bit surprised that the new 330i won, re-establishing the benchmark. Can't wait to see what Infiniti does with the next G!

 

I have 2 of the most recent magazines that reviewed the IS350 sitting in front of me. Here are their results.

October Road & Track
Lexus IS350 Price $42,000 As tested
0-60 MPH = 6.0 Sec
0-100 MPH = 14.9 Sec
1/4 MIle = 14.5 @ 98.6
Test time Conditions 97 degrees F Humidity 31% Elevation 150 ft. That is pretty close to the conditions that C&D tested under.

September AutoMobile Magazine
Lexus IS350 Price $42,500 As tested
0-60 MPH = 5.6 Sec Manufacturer's estimate

Gear Ratios

1st 3.52:1 Overall ratio 14.37:1 RPM 6600 35 MPH
2nd 2.04:1 Overall ratio 8.34:1 RPM 6600 61 MPH
3rd 1.40:1 Overall ratio 5.72:1 RPM 6600 89 MPH

That looks pretty close to the G35s numbers for top speed in each gear.

 

Now we're getting somewhere. There is no production NA v-6 out there - especially from Toyota that is going to run faster than or with the v-8 in the Mustang GT. That would be a breakthrough for sure and set Toyota apart for more than quality, and I'd sign right up if it handled close to that of my car. It still sound like there's another of many cars that will run a G head on or better it. Things have changed since 2002!

What will 2007 bring us. The G38 sounds nice!

 

You said there is no production NA V6 that will run with a mustang GT. Actually I think there is one. Won’t the Acura NSX’s keep up with the Mustang GT? Now that car costs about 3 times what the Mustang costs but you said there weren’t any engines that could do it. I guess the Porsche engines could do it also but those are flat 6s right? Are the Boxsters flat 6s or V6s? I do agree with you that the Lexus IS350 is not capable of a 5.1 0-60 time period!

 

The biggest obstacle in speed is weight, not motor. Neither the G35 or the new Lexus is a lightweight so their numbers shouldn't be too far apart. The 0-60 in 6 secs for the Lexus sounds reasonable to me. The 5.6 manufacturer estimate is just that, an estimate. Anything less is fictional. I also think the other mag's price estimate is right ($42k) which like the BMW, is no where near the cost of a loaded G35. It seems like that should count for something more than a few points in the head-to-head.

 

C&D gave the BMW the highest exterior styling points- what a joke.

C&D doesn't care about reliability either- BMW's are electrical problems waiting to happen and they almost wrecked the car because the ABS screwed up!

 

The NSX in some years may beat the GT - I wouldn't doubt it. I bet in some earlier NSX years they would be neck in neck. The NSX is about handling more so than speed. Powerwise what was the NSX producing? Not high 300 hp, right? Forgetting the car, my point regarded the output of the motor. Put the NSX V-6 in 3600# mustang body and it'll be slower. The torque it relys on won't be there.

 

Sorry to revive this thread, but... Did anybody notice the disparity of the skidpad numbers amongst the contenders? As others have pointed out, the TL got a 0.91. And the G tied the lex with a 0.85. Just last year, the 04 6MT C&D tested rated a .90 lateral g on the skidpad(uh.oh, something else the 04s are better at than the 05s.. I kid I kid).

Wanna bet that *this* car had the EL33 turanzas? I'd check, but it appears that the scans have been removed.

 

the nsx weighs like 3000lbs and it's final gear is like 3.81 or something, hence the ability to hit the quarter mile at 13.5, the mk4 supra did it in 13.3 at 3500lbs with the assistances of twin turbos.

 

Yep, it had the Turanza EL33.

In the 9/05 MT, the G sedan they tested against the BMW 330i generated the same exact g's (.88) so you can be assured that the 05 G35 tested in this comparo would have produced the same numbers.

Everyone needs to get some straight here though, FWD typically can generate some really healthy cornering G's. Any platform with good tires can generate strong lateral G's. Keep in mind Acura also dumped the EL42s they use to run on these cars. C/Ds "lane change" test it's a great measure of handling either. The true test of handling is a slalom through multiple cones. That tells you the true handling potential of a car. In that aspect, the TL falls short.