braking: sport vs non-sport
#16
Originally Posted by Altersys
no.
do the rotors touch the ground? do the pads? what touches the ground? what is the real point of friction with the ground?
another way to look at it. are the "inferior" non-sport brakes incapable of locking up because they are so weak? that must be why only the sport cars have ABS.
do the rotors touch the ground? do the pads? what touches the ground? what is the real point of friction with the ground?
another way to look at it. are the "inferior" non-sport brakes incapable of locking up because they are so weak? that must be why only the sport cars have ABS.
#17
Originally Posted by Altersys
no.
do the rotors touch the ground? do the pads? what touches the ground? what is the real point of friction with the ground?
another way to look at it. are the "inferior" non-sport brakes incapable of locking up because they are so weak? that must be why only the sport cars have ABS.
do the rotors touch the ground? do the pads? what touches the ground? what is the real point of friction with the ground?
another way to look at it. are the "inferior" non-sport brakes incapable of locking up because they are so weak? that must be why only the sport cars have ABS.
Exactly - The function of bigger brake pads/rotors is purely for heat dissipation. They don't necessarily stop you faster in shorter distances. Stopping power (on the braking mechanism itself) is determined purely by the coeff of friction of the brake pads being used and F (force) of the clamps being applied. This of course doesn't take into account is the tires as Altersys has mentioned - which is the bigger factor in stopping. Bigger brake pads/rotors apply the same pressure - only over a larger surface area, so the only thing that changes is heat dissipation.
#18
yep. that, and with the same master cylinder (and caliper design) it requires less effort at the pedal due to the greater mechanical advantage of a longer moment arm (due to bigger rotors).
personally i did NOT like that about the sport. i like having to apply a little more brake pressure at the pedal because i find it easier to modulate at the limit.
personally i did NOT like that about the sport. i like having to apply a little more brake pressure at the pedal because i find it easier to modulate at the limit.
Last edited by Altersys; 05-11-2007 at 06:25 PM.
#19
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Originally Posted by psteng19
It's not just about distance. Bigger brakes dissipate heat better so it will experience less fading for repeated stops.
Originally Posted by Sedanman07
True but usually fading only shows when racing and not day to day driving unless of course you are racing somebody on your way to work.
I have to agree that larger rotors, assuming the numer of pistons in the calipers, and everything else being constant, the larger breaks will perform better at the track. Larger rotors, more area for heat to dissipate.
But as for daily use, I highly doubt there's any difference, except that the 13" rotors look better
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#24
Originally Posted by andy2
I know people who had Inifiniti and Nissan but none complaints about brake warp.
On the other hand, my previous Accord had front brake warp that vibrates everytime I steped on the brake.
On the other hand, my previous Accord had front brake warp that vibrates everytime I steped on the brake.
This is true. i have owned 3 Nissan vehicles and all have had brake noises early. Also most of my friends who had Nissan's experienced the same problems. I already have some squeaks on my G and i have less than 10k on it
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#29
Originally Posted by Infamous425
though it doesnt say whether improved over the non sport or improved over the 1st gen
i hate marketers..... spin **** whatever way they want, using the layperson's laziness against her/him. i guess it's what we deserve for being lazy, though... no?
as i keep saying, the sport brakes look cool, and seem cool on paper but are unnecessary in terms of fade resistance on the street, and since they don't improve stopping distance, are really just an aesthetic mod. i don't even think they feel as good, so there's nothing there either.
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