Oh I know why manufacturers do this. I'm simply saying that I wish it were flip flopped. I'm sure the reason most car companies use the "up for upshift, down for downshift" setup is because not only is it easier to explain to your average n00b, but if it were the other way around, they're afraid some jacka*s would go "hmm, up for upshift right?" and downshift to 1st at 30mph and almost kill someone.

At least Infiniti got the paddles right though, unlike Porsche.

And yes, it would be nice if DS would skip gears.

 

You could always tell people "pull stick to go up, just like flying a plane."
And the stick moves forward and backward, not really "up" and "down."

If it's so controversial, the car companies should just make it user selectable. It's all electronic anyway.

 

DS can (and does) skip gears. Using paddles in manual mode does not.

 

7 Gear transmission is the most any car should have. Over 7 really is pushing it. To much gear hunting and to much gear shock. I mostly used to 5 speed trans.

 

http://www.infinitieurope.com/g37/fe...ications.html#

No assurance that the USA specs will be the same,
But the European web site now shows 3.357 for the A7.

- Ray
Still waiting . . .

 

The us site also lists the g37 coupe with 3.357 too. I imagine the sedan will get the same final gear ratio.

 

So how it will translate to what rpm @ 80mph in top gear? The current 5AT is at 3300rpm which i think is too high. Maybe 2800rmp is reasonable.

 

The rwd fx35 and g37 coupe gets the same gear ratios and final drive ratio too.

 

Assuming very nearly the same tire revs \ mile I expect
[ calculate ] just over 2800 @ 80MPH...

 

I found this website that can calculate the estimated vehicle speed at a given engine speed.
http://www.f-body.org/gears/

 

Final drive is 3.357

 

The A7 is, as mentioned in the Edmunds article posted today,
“geared more aggressively than even the six-speed manual gearbox.”
And with the 3.36 final drive, more aggressively than the A5 also . . .

First, overall, in the A5 = 14.17:1
First in the A7 = 16.53:1.

Second A5 = 8.67:1
Second A7 = 10.72:1

Third A5 = 5.64:1
Third A7 = 6.85:1

Fourth A5 = 3.69:1 ( 1:1 )
Fourth A7 = 4.74:1 ( 1.41:1 )

Fifth A5 = 3.10
Fifth A7 = 3.36 ( 1:1 )

Sixth A7 = 2.89

Seventh A7 = 2.59

 

RE – MPG:
My guess, as I have posted above, is that
The G37 Sedan w/A7 will reportedly post 2 MPG higher
in the EPA highway # and seems likely at least that
much higher in actual highway style cruising.
To me, 2 or 3 MPG means:
A – 10% or so less fuel expense in much of my driving.
B – approx. 38 to 57 additional miles per tank \ range
C – Another small decrement in my personal carbon
and fossil fuel use. . .

I do understand that 2 or 3 MPG mean little to some people, even now.

RE - ‘a tenth or two’:
Speculation remains rampant regarding any difference in acceleration between the G35 Sedan w/A5 and the G37 Sedan w/A7.
[ sigh ]
Quicker is better – to me.
I have been somewhat ( ahem ) spoiled by driving over 30,000 miles in a rather quick car. [ Corvette ]

A few ‘back of the envelope’ calculations suggest to me that, with the 3.36 final drive & the gearing of the new A7:

The ‘rate’ of acceleration to 60 will likely be noticeably quicker than in the G35.

But the 0-60 times may be only a tenth quicker – largely due to the requirement of another shift before 60. Looks like even pushing to the fuel cutoff ( if still 8,000 RPM ) would mean a 2-3 shift before 55 MPH.

The same goes for the quarter mile – where the top of third gear was previously right at 103 = very close to the terminal velocity I see reported in various quarter mile tests, the G37 A7 third gear looks to ‘reach’ only to around 85 MPH. Again, I expect that the aggressive gearing will result is quicker acceleration, but perhaps ( since requiring another shift – well before reaching the end of the quarter mile run ) not much difference in reported times.

These are based on roughly the same rolling diameter \ revs per mile on the 2009’s wheel \ tire combinations.

RE – quiet.
I have not driven a G37 Coupe.
My reading leads me to believe that the 3.7L is a somewhat more refined motor than the 3.5L.
This also will likely be somewhat effected by the final drive ratio chosen. The lower ( numerically ) the final drive, the lower the RPM at any given road speed in top gear.

I am personally more interested in the RPM than the noise level – as I expect that Infiniti will manage the noise well enough. I just happen to [ rather strongly, but irrationally ] prefer lower RPM in sustained highway driving at or above 70 MPH.

But that’s just me . . .

- Ray
Waiting.

2 MPG * 19 gal = 38 miles
3 MPG * 19 gal = 57 miles
[ 1 gal = ‘reserve’ ]

 

RE: shift into 3rd before 60.

The EVO 6MT, STI(pre-07) and S2000 all require shifts into 3rd to hit 60 and still post great times

 

let's see who breaks in their '09 G's first and we'll discuss