MREV2 and 3/8" Installed with cell phone Pic's
#16
Here is a picture of a real MREV2 that was sold and resold I don't know how many times by RebelinRI. Pictures of this real one were mixed with fake ones all in the same for sale post in the classified sections of MY350Z and G35Driver.
On the blue towel - This is what a real MREV2 looks like.
The close up shot showing the runner inlet with a sharp edge - Its RebelinRI's picture and its a fake.
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On the blue towel - This is what a real MREV2 looks like.
The close up shot showing the runner inlet with a sharp edge - Its RebelinRI's picture and its a fake.
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Last edited by Hydrazine; 12-20-2007 at 09:53 PM.
#17
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
Here is a picture of a real MREV2 that was sold and resold I don't know how many times by RebelinRI. Pictures of this real one were mixed with fake ones all in the same for sale post in the classified section.
On the blue towel - This is what a real MREV2 looks like.
The close up shot showing the runner inlet with a sharp edge - Its RebelinRI's and its a fake.
.
On the blue towel - This is what a real MREV2 looks like.
The close up shot showing the runner inlet with a sharp edge - Its RebelinRI's and its a fake.
.
#18
I don't see where anything is different when trying to compare the grainy photo that citymunk put up vs. the photo from the website of motordyne engineering.
the real question here is how many has rebelinRI sold vs. how many did he buy from intense motorsports or other private parties?
if he's sold more than the ones he bought then perhaps indeed there is some fishy business going on here.
at the end of the day though tony isn't going to divulge where the differences are in the grainy photo vs. his real deal because of the fact that what he's done is his secret and that's why he's the only one that can make them.
none of us can judge publicly what has really gone on here and even tony doesn't know for sure unless he's seen the item that was sold to citymunky and been able to take measurements to prove that he didn't do them. even after all of that I'm sure if you compared one MREV2 to another MREV2 there would be subtle differences because these are, after all, modified versions of a stock setup and not really from some mold or cast that would guarantee a closer accuracy and precision.
as for buying up the multiple non-revup plenums it could just be that rebelinRI was just buying them so that he could get them at a cheap price and modify them himself to test for his own personal gains and R&D. I'm sure that Mr. Tony went through many before he got his product perfected and buying them from others is not a bad idea since you'll get it for cheaper.
in addition, no stamps or serial numbers are added to these MREV2s to show that they are indeed authentic.
cliff notes: no one is going to be able to prove this either way.
the real question here is how many has rebelinRI sold vs. how many did he buy from intense motorsports or other private parties?
if he's sold more than the ones he bought then perhaps indeed there is some fishy business going on here.
at the end of the day though tony isn't going to divulge where the differences are in the grainy photo vs. his real deal because of the fact that what he's done is his secret and that's why he's the only one that can make them.
none of us can judge publicly what has really gone on here and even tony doesn't know for sure unless he's seen the item that was sold to citymunky and been able to take measurements to prove that he didn't do them. even after all of that I'm sure if you compared one MREV2 to another MREV2 there would be subtle differences because these are, after all, modified versions of a stock setup and not really from some mold or cast that would guarantee a closer accuracy and precision.
as for buying up the multiple non-revup plenums it could just be that rebelinRI was just buying them so that he could get them at a cheap price and modify them himself to test for his own personal gains and R&D. I'm sure that Mr. Tony went through many before he got his product perfected and buying them from others is not a bad idea since you'll get it for cheaper.
in addition, no stamps or serial numbers are added to these MREV2s to show that they are indeed authentic.
cliff notes: no one is going to be able to prove this either way.
#19
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
Here is a picture of a real MREV2 that was sold and resold I don't know how many times by RebelinRI. Pictures of this real one were mixed with fake ones all in the same for sale post in the classified sections of MY350Z and G35Driver.
On the blue towel - This is what a real MREV2 looks like.
The close up shot showing the runner inlet with a sharp edge - Its RebelinRI's picture and its a fake.
.
On the blue towel - This is what a real MREV2 looks like.
The close up shot showing the runner inlet with a sharp edge - Its RebelinRI's picture and its a fake.
.
#20
#21
Originally Posted by redlude97
Wait the ones posted by citymunky and the one posted above are different, so which is the bogus part. The one you just posted looks like a nonrevup plenum thats had the casting marks grinded down, which doesn't appear to be present in the one citymunky posted, although I do see the extra machining that is apparent compared to your mrev2
The darker picture on the right is the fake with a polish.
The picture of the non-revup posted by Citymunky is also a fake (no polish).
#22
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
The one on the blue towel is real.
The darker picture on the right is the fake with a polish.
The picture of the non-revup posted by Citymunky is also a fake (no polish).
The darker picture on the right is the fake with a polish.
The picture of the non-revup posted by Citymunky is also a fake (no polish).
![](http://students.washington.edu/nguyenh6/real%2520MREV2.jpg)
![](http://motordyneengineering.com/images/350ZG35M35ModifiedCollector322.jpg)
Thats is where my confusion lies, they are clearly different, but you are saying they are real, unless the first one I posted is a real MREV2 that rebellinRI grinded down
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#23
Ahhh yes. Good point.
I specifically and intentionally do not post a picture of a real MREV2 on my website.
It would make it toooo easy to copy.
If a vendor wants to copy my product they will have to at least buy a real one to do it.
What I have on my website is a regular plenum with the tops of runners 1&2 milled a little.
The real MREV2 has much more machining and effort put into it. A lot more.
I specifically and intentionally do not post a picture of a real MREV2 on my website.
It would make it toooo easy to copy.
If a vendor wants to copy my product they will have to at least buy a real one to do it.
What I have on my website is a regular plenum with the tops of runners 1&2 milled a little.
The real MREV2 has much more machining and effort put into it. A lot more.
#24
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
OK,
Civic4982 you don't have to belive me.
I know what my product looks like and I am not going to divulge my trade secrets to you.
Otherwise, its OK if you don't believe me.
Civic4982 you don't have to belive me.
I know what my product looks like and I am not going to divulge my trade secrets to you.
Otherwise, its OK if you don't believe me.
I'll just repeat what I askd on the other forum:
without risking divulging your trade secrets I hope you'll be able to say if the differences are in quality of the machining, location, depth, or maybe that the thing isn't even a non-revup plenum.
what there is making you say that that one is a fake (generally speaking) ?
#25
#26
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
Ahhh yes. Good point.
I specifically and intentionally do not post a picture of a real MREV2 on my website.
It would make it toooo easy to copy.
If a vendor wants to copy my product they will have to at least buy a real one to do it.
What I have on my website is a regular plenum with the tops of runners 1&2 milled a little.
The real MREV2 has much more machining and effort put into it. A lot more.
I specifically and intentionally do not post a picture of a real MREV2 on my website.
It would make it toooo easy to copy.
If a vendor wants to copy my product they will have to at least buy a real one to do it.
What I have on my website is a regular plenum with the tops of runners 1&2 milled a little.
The real MREV2 has much more machining and effort put into it. A lot more.
#27
#28
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
OK,
Take a good look at the tops of the runners of both.
rebelinri has hard edges on his.
Mine don't have any hard edges at all. None.
Take a good look at the tops of the runners of both.
rebelinri has hard edges on his.
Mine don't have any hard edges at all. None.
even that much detail wasn't necessary.
obviously the location of some of the machining is the place in which you note that there are differences and they are obvious enough for you to notice even from the quality of the photography.
I wonder why if someone was to make a countefeit or fake MREV2 though they'd make such an error. that in itself sounds highly suspect.
#30
Originally Posted by civic4982
thanks.
even that much detail wasn't necessary.
obviously the location of some of the machining is the place in which you note that there are differences and they are obvious enough for you to notice even from the quality of the photography.
I wonder why if someone was to make a countefeit or fake MREV2 though they'd make such an error. that in itself sounds highly suspect.
even that much detail wasn't necessary.
obviously the location of some of the machining is the place in which you note that there are differences and they are obvious enough for you to notice even from the quality of the photography.
I wonder why if someone was to make a countefeit or fake MREV2 though they'd make such an error. that in itself sounds highly suspect.