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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 03:42 AM
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I got Xentech 3000K


love your step lights.. What kind of led are you using..
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TOPNOTCHSEDAN
I got 8,000k headlights and fog lights... And love them...

damnnn look at that glare lol

Originally Posted by TurTLe*
for those who ran HID for fogs are they bi-xenon or just single filaments.

i've been thinking about going 3k fogs, i barely use my highbeams at all. so single filaments would make sense for me plus if i hit the highbeam that would mean my fogs turn off and people get the signal i'm trying to flash them in a sense.
I ran a signle filment h4 bulb in my headlights when I had 8000k in headlights and fogs. I lost my high beams. It was ok for a while, but I later wished I had bixenon bulbs. Some roads I was on, I could barely see ahead of me.

If you get a single filament bulb, you won't have highbeams. When you flip the high beam switch, your fogs will turn off.

But a good thing to consider and one of the huge reasons why I got rid of the 8000k's in my fogs, besides the glare, was inspection. In NJ you HAVE to have high beams. Not sure what it is in other states, but that is something to consider.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Exactly as I expected. HID foglights = douchebag.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by g35freak86
But a good thing to consider and one of the huge reasons why I got rid of the 8000k's in my fogs, besides the glare, was inspection. In NJ you HAVE to have high beams. Not sure what it is in other states, but that is something to consider.
Well that's any state. You need a high beam in all 50 states. BUT, putting HID's in a reflector halogen housing is not legal anyway...fog light or not.

No HID retrofits are legal except for OEM HID headlight interchanges. Even if you get through inspection with an aftermarket kit..it's pretty much because the inspector didn't catch it or care about it. Most of these laws are not because Johhny Law doesn't want you to make your car look cool. A lot are insurance related. You put 12K low beam bulbs in cuz you think it looks cool, but not your ability to see at night is reduced. You put 3% tint on your car and think it looks cool but now you can't see crap when you back up or take a turn and run a little kid over or back into a post and ruin your bumper. You tint your taillights because it looks nice, but now grandma behind you can't see your taillights well and rear-ends you. Etc, Etc etc. There are underlying reasons for all these laws we hate.

I'll end my law-abiding rant. I'm not trying to preach to anyone because I've even broken some of the laws I just mentioned above. I'm not innocent, and not trying to tell anyone what to do with their cars. I have stuff on my car that's technically not legal either

My personal opinion of HID kits is to not use them in reflector housings. There is a difference in design between HID reflector housings and halogen reflector housings. They glare and blind other drivers and everyone always says "My kit doesn't glare" and then snaps photos of their car lighting up treetops 100 feet away. With fog lights, i'm on the fence. Fog lights for the most part point down by design. Most kits i've seen installed in fog lights don't glare as much as headlights since most of the light is directed downward. Not saying it's right or wrong to do so, but HID fogs doesn't bother me as much as slapping a $100 HID kit into a reflector low beam housing. Would I put them in my fogs? Prob not
 

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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang5L5
Well that's any state. You need a high beam in all 50 states. BUT, putting HID's in a reflector halogen housing is not legal anyway...fog light or not.

No HID retrofits are legal except for OEM HID headlight interchanges. Even if you get through inspection with an aftermarket kit..it's pretty much because the inspector didn't catch it or care about it. Most of these laws are not because Johhny Law doesn't want you to make your car look cool. A lot are insurance related. You put 12K low beam bulbs in cuz you think it looks cool, but not your ability to see at night is reduced. You put 3% tint on your car and think it looks cool but now you can't see crap when you back up or take a turn and run a little kid over or back into a post and ruin your bumper. You tint your taillights because it looks nice, but now grandma behind you can't see your taillights well and rear-ends you. Etc, Etc etc. There are underlying reasons for all these laws we hate.

I'll end my law-abiding rant. I'm not trying to preach to anyone because I've even broken some of the laws I just mentioned above. I'm not innocent, and not trying to tell anyone what to do with their cars. I have stuff on my car that's technically not legal either

My personal opinion of HID kits is to not use them in reflector housings. There is a difference in design between HID reflector housings and halogen reflector housings. They glare and blind other drivers and everyone always says "My kit doesn't glare" and then snaps photos of their car lighting up treetops 100 feet away. With fog lights, i'm on the fence. Fog lights for the most part point down by design. Most kits i've seen installed in fog lights don't glare as much as headlights since most of the light is directed downward. Not saying it's right or wrong to do so, but HID fogs doesn't bother me as much as slapping a $100 HID kit into a reflector low beam housing. Would I put them in my fogs? Prob not
Most reflector housing fog lights on other cars use a significantly smaller reflector housing though, and the reflector on the sedan is designed for both foglight and highbeam functions, so they are actually pointed quite high. The only thing the highbeam function does is light a second filament on the halogen bulb, in the same reflector housing. Since an HID bulb is essentially like a brighter halogen bulb, the result of using an HID kit in the halogen foglight reflector housing is essentially like running your highbeams all the time. If that isn't glaring to other drivers, then I don't know what is
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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a fog's housing/ beam pattern is the scatter wide...

http://www.sportscar-parts.com/scaim...hics/beam1.gif

this is why FOG lights with HID have minimal glare. Our cars are a different story paired with highbeams. I'm partially with prelude on the highbeams being on all the time. But filament placement for the HID bulb is still in the same place on how the housing is designed, therefore its not going as intense as if highbeams were on but the bulb will scatter and some will hit the high beam reflectors.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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can anyone post their hid fog light harness + ballast installation(s)? How difficult is it to install hid? does this void any factory warranty?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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plug and play. hardest parts is where to mount the harness.

if you can change the fog bulb then your good to go.

it CAN void the fog light harness and the bulb, but factory warrnty doesn't cover bulb only extended infiniti covers bulbs. either way its like $5 a bulb so no major damage.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TurTLe*
a fog's housing/ beam pattern is the scatter wide...

http://www.sportscar-parts.com/scaim...hics/beam1.gif

this is why FOG lights with HID have minimal glare. Our cars are a different story paired with highbeams. I'm partially with prelude on the highbeams being on all the time. But filament placement for the HID bulb is still in the same place on how the housing is designed, therefore its not going as intense as if highbeams were on but the bulb will scatter and some will hit the high beam reflectors.
Yes, a correctly designed fog beam looks like that, but the G35's unfortunately do not. They project a significant amount of light upwards because they must provide dual functionality as high beams as well. I've seen it first hand
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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yea, i wasn't able to TURN off my headlights to just see the fogs lights, no idea what the beam pattern looks like. figured it would be somewhat close.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Our stock fogs are so damn ugly though, that i never used them because well, they look ugly.

Upgraded to bulbs, but not sure if i like them or not. Its too, serious of a yellow. I like the whit-ish yellow that are in HIDs.

What do 5k bulbs look like without the HID?

Im not doing projector because i want to sell the car eventually and dont feel like wasting $800 and ruining the stock headlights.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Wannabe6MT
Our stock fogs are so damn ugly though, that i never used them because well, they look ugly.

I agree. Even with 3K bulbs in them, i just leave them off period.

I only turn them on if i'm driving in the snow or rain and really do need them
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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Thats what i might just add the HIDs for.

Sure, they will be bright. But they will help damn well when its raining or im out in the middle of BFE.

I generally leave them off when im just driving around town.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:59 AM
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why not just drive around with the highbeams on all the time then? Same effect with no additional cost
 
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