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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Urbanengineer
Wijibo you just got me way too interested in this spoilier...

Advice, read the thread I linked above, because you would learn air intakes installed on this car only decrease the power output. They add more noise, so if you are about that rice factor then... hell yeah.

If you want to "black out" your tail lights yourself there is a member here named bluebatmobile who makes tint that only covers the non-illuminating part of the taillight. This keeps you a little more legal and gives you those eyes in the tail light.

ex. http://s2.photobucket.com/user/BlueB...?sort=3&page=1
The VQ35DE engine does benifit from an open airway. I have read many of these myths and dyno results and I am going to tell you that you are correct in a sense. The is no real way to see if the cold air intake works correctly as the differences in results can vary by the HP it boasts it can add. This doesn't mean they don't work

People mainly buy these intakes because of the sound. It isn't all that ricey the VQ is a beast of a v6 and it sounds good in a lot of people opinion, not rice.

most importantly there IS actually proof that cone filter intakes or any filter for that matter with a larger scrubbing surface area will increase gas efficiency. They do by a noticeable difference. These things always end up paying for themselves in the first year you drive.

The "decrease" you are talking about is the back pressure you zap by opening up the intake. This back pressure is only needed until 2.5k on the tach. This is what torque is married to on in this space of time. Once you pass this you don't want back pressure, you want free moving air. This is where the "gains" are talked about. You gather it all back and then some in the top end. When you are racing you are not hanging around below 3k (or you're doing it wrong) You are in the upper RPM range where the benefit of the CAI/ SRI can express itself. The lost of power is no where to be seen. When you are at a light and driving casually, having a little less power gives you more leway to drive without jerking.

I race dude, I have been doing it since I was 12 sitting in shifterkarts. I will tell you. Never once in all my years and experience have I seen anyone or heard anyone talk about how they are getting too much airflow on a naturally aspirated engine unless they were having problems with their carburetor and Fuel/air ration unrelated to the filter. I have seen and I have heard everyone talk about how this filter does this and that filter does that. Some dyno article from someone with a handful of CAI and an agenda can't stomp on over a hundred years of racing.

Cars work along the triangle of Fuel, Oxygen, Ignition. The more fuel and oxygen we have the more powerful the combustion. The less drag you create in the oxygen the larger the quantity and the more powerful the combustion. This is simple physics. Myth or no myth, These things are worth their value in gas savings alone.
 

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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Urbanengineer
Wijibo you just got me way too interested in this spoilier...

Advice, read the thread I linked above, because you would learn air intakes installed on this car only decrease the power output. They add more noise, so if you are about that rice factor then... hell yeah.

If you want to "black out" your tail lights yourself there is a member here named bluebatmobile who makes tint that only covers the non-illuminating part of the taillight. This keeps you a little more legal and gives you those eyes in the tail light.

ex. http://s2.photobucket.com/user/BlueB...?sort=3&page=1


B@t™
 
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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 02:45 PM
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These things always end up paying for themselves in the first year you drive.
No they don't
 
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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thegreatkwijibo
No they don't
lets do some maths

I do 15k miles a year. I get on average 25mpg

lets say a CAI increases my efficiency by ONE mpg. a single mpg. ok? so we can be more in your favor.

lets set gas at 4 bucks a gallon to make it easy although its usually higher.

in 15k miles I am using 600 gallons of gasoline.

if I had 1 mpg difference i would be using 576 gallons

that is a savings of 26 gallons at 4 dollars a gallon= 104 dollars

I built my cold air intake for 56 dollars.

Cold air intakes usually increase by 2-3 mpg so we are talking over $300 dollars a year in savings to be more realistic.

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No they don't
yes the do
 

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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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lets do some maths

I do 15k miles a year. I get on average 25mpg
Well first off thats not normal most people do 10-12k, and do mostly city, so they get nowhere near that mileage.

lets say a CAI increases my efficiency by ONE mpg. a single mpg. ok? so we can be more in your favor.
thats actually pretty realistic especially on these cars.

lets set gas at 4 bucks a gallon to make it easy although its usually higher.
Must really suck wherever you are I just filled up with V-Power for 3.69.

I built my cold air intake for 56 dollars.
most people don't do this, although this is the only way that it would pay for itself in a year. But most people just go and spend the $300 for a pre-made one.

Cold air intakes usually increase by 2-3 mpg so we are talking over $300 dollars a year in savings to be more realistic.
On what planet


yes the do
So in conclusion: you drive more than other people, you're gas costs more than at least some of us, and yours was cheaper than anyone elses. so while your cold air intake may have paid for itself (I'm still a bit doubtful), most people won't have that.
now have a nice day
 
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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 10:02 PM
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I drive... A LOT.. about 1200 miles per month. two jobs & school have me constantly moving, and majority IS highway.

My boyfriend is pretty handy & knows how to and has offered to install an air intake if I decide to get one.. NO way I'd drop $300.

Because I drive so much on the highway, AND gas in So.Cal is ridiculously priced, I need every mpg increasing option [that won't drastically take away Scarletts power].. And of course she still needs to look and sound beautiful [not ricey]
 
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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by thegreatkwijibo
Well first off thats not normal most people do 10-12k, and do mostly city, so they get nowhere near that mileage.



thats actually pretty realistic especially on these cars.



Must really suck wherever you are I just filled up with V-Power for 3.69.



most people don't do this, although this is the only way that it would pay for itself in a year. But most people just go and spend the $300 for a pre-made one.



On what planet




So in conclusion: you drive more than other people, you're gas costs more than at least some of us, and yours was cheaper than anyone elses. so while your cold air intake may have paid for itself (I'm still a bit doubtful), most people won't have that.
now have a nice day
Do a google check dude, you can score a knock off (which is EVERY bit as good as a name brand) for 70 bucks up to name brands for 200 bucks. If you spend 300+ you didn't do a good searching around.

Second, no need to get butt hurt. I am just here telling fact and offering help found though my years of experience.

Lets say for arguments sake you are right 100% Well you would only be right by a marginal amount because eventually the intake will pay for itself if not in 1 year than a year and a half or 2. even at 2 that is a good deal, what other mod do you have that pays for itself? just checking.

The planet I am from is earth, hope you find it. cause here with our atmosphere we do get 2-3 mpg more efficiency with a simple change from stock filter to k&n, proceed to cone and its even better. Look it up cause no more silver spoon feedings will come from big momma

opinions are not objective pieces of information.
 

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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 12:03 AM
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last airplane vrooooooOOOOoooooooom open wiiiide and

http://www.knfilters.com/filter_facts.htm

educate
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 12:09 AM
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My post wasn't very serious, felt like you took ricey to the heart.

If you want better MPGs invest in a more efficient car, overall the savings per gallon is not that much.

And boys of Socal G club, she's already taken .
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by twentyeggs
last airplane vrooooooOOOOoooooooom open wiiiide and

http://www.knfilters.com/filter_facts.htm

educate
You are awful brave for a new member. Tell me, how do you define RICE?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 12:50 AM
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Do a google check dude, you can score a knock off (which is EVERY bit as good as a name brand) for 70 bucks up to name brands for 200 bucks. If you spend 300+ you didn't do a good searching around.

Second, no need to get butt hurt. I am just here telling fact and offering help found though my years of experience.

Lets say for arguments sake you are right 100% Well you would only be right by a marginal amount because eventually the intake will pay for itself if not in 1 year than a year and a half or 2. even at 2 that is a good deal, what other mod do you have that pays for itself? just checking.

The planet I am from is earth, hope you find it. cause here with our atmosphere we do get 2-3 mpg more efficiency with a simple change from stock filter to k&n, proceed to cone and its even better. Look it up cause no more silver spoon feedings will come from big momma

opinions are not objective pieces of information.
I still have a stock intake so no 300 was spent by me but whatever the case CAIs don't really do much of anything except increase heatsoak and confuse the ECU if you try to use them without a tune, especially on an engine like the VQ35 which has an incredibly efficient intake from the factory. Also if you wanted mpgs you bought the wrong car, no two ways about it. but since you're clearly the expert here I suppose I will just stop talking to you now.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:08 AM
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Katie, for your intake needs just get a Z-Tube (Stillen) and a K&N drop in filter. (most auto parts stores) Changing those two will give you a cooler sound and better filtration. Any other intakes will cost you more $$ and WHP in weather like we're having now.
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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Well this escalated quickly..

I had fuel efficient and will absolutely never go back. I felt like I was in a bubble &the damn thing would break traction on the slowest turns ever.
Growing up on trucks and muscle gives you high expectations.. I'm just glad I found that great deal on Scarlett
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Katie, for your intake needs just get a Z-Tube (Stillen) and a K&N drop in filter. (most auto parts stores) Changing those two will give you a cooler sound and better filtration. Any other intakes will cost you more $$ and WHP in weather like we're having now.
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Awesome!! I'll definitely look into it thank you!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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Katie, for your intake needs just get a Z-Tube (Stillen) and a K&N drop in filter. (most auto parts stores) Changing those two will give you a cooler sound and better filtration. Any other intakes will cost you more $$ and WHP in weather like we're having now.
Gary
agreed, great combo, great sound, low cost, same benefits.

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