Anyone recommend good On-line traffic school?
 

try www.247trafficschoolonline.com If you put "2400" in the promo section it will save you $3. You should be able to complete it in like 45 mins max. I have used it a couple times now. I tend to have a need for speed every 18 months. :D

Gabe, what happened? Stretching out the TT's? ;)

Edit: Nevermind, I just got the 411 from Carol. ;)

Just an FYI:

On line traffic school, though quick and convient, is public record.
Your insurance co can still find out you had a moving violation. It is recorded on your driving record as an occurance, but no point reflected.

Whereas, the boring, in class room 8 hr one is non public record. It will not be recorded on your driving record and the insurance co will have no way of knowing you ever got the ticket. Some ins. co do randomly check your driving record just to see what you been up to...good or bad and can raise your rate if you've been bad (having too much fun and getting caught :p )

Know this for a fact, being my son :rolleyes: and I was told of this by the traffic court judge in Santa Rosa earlier this month.

IMHO. I'd just blow a Saturday for 8 hrs (which they usually let you go in about 6.5 - 7hrs anyway) and that way they're is no way my insurance could ever find out and raise my (in this case my son's) premiums for 3 yrs.

Just something to keep in mine. :D

I used this one before and it didn't affect my insurance at all.

http://www.traffic101.com/

Rgtopz: Sorry to hear about the ticket!!! How much you went over the speed limit? Couple years ago, I was over 13 miles over the speed limit, 30mph but I was like 43, cost me around over $300 to get everything clear and straight. Just take that online class and get it over. Take care,
pd

I was going 19 miles over speed limit. I guess my twin turbos decided to take over, or my heavy foot. Anyway, the bill came out to $220.00 with the traffic school fee. I'm kinda worried about taking on line school, due to the possibility that some insurance agency may have access. May be I better just sign up for the boring 8 hr. class. Im not sure. Maybe I meet a new friend there.

Thanks for the info.

rgtopz:(

Hey, I wasn't stretching out as much as some others that I know. I won't mention names or speed. The most embarrassing part is that I was with my two girls. hehehe

I emailed Traffic101 and asked if this is true.

Whatcha talking about, Willis!? ;)

Hey, don't feel too bad, Gabe. My last speeding ticket was issued some 18 years ago when my son, Travis, was 3 years old. He was sitting in the rear strapped into a child seat when I got popped for going 40 over on the 101. Now, that was STUPID. The female CHP officer looked at me like WTF?

Depending on whay Eloy digs up for you, you may just want to opt for the formal classroom deal. That way there are no doubts. Hey, go to one of those wine tasting traffic school classes. ;) :D

my 5 years as either an adjuster or a sales guys for Liberty Mutual says the judge was pulling your chain, probably because your son had the voilation and the judge wanted him to have a saturday to think about his actions, and scare you as the Dad into making him do it. That being said some traffic laws etc vary by county, and some counties don't even allow on line traffic schools.

I agree here, but didn't want to speak out of turn because I don't have facts. Just because a judge said it, doesn't make it true.

agreed cru, keep us posted on the email, I am really curious now...

I used traffic 101. Great place, took me about 1 hour to complete everything.

Elgin (LJN_728) might be a good person to ask about this. He sees peoples driving records all day long.

Too bad a judge would LIE in court while we all were under oath :rolleyes: (it went as far as actual court with the officer present, BTW) That's really sad if true. And the judge stated this fact in every one of the cases heard that day before my son's.

Yeah...curious if it actually still shows up on your record. The points do not, but the violation occurance does.
Anyone who's done online school and has checked their DMV record recently after doing that course, please chime in to confirm the judge was full of BS.

Sorry Cru, I will not believe any response from an online traffic school company. Think they will tell the truth if what I heard from a traffic court judge is true?? That would hurt their business a lot if correct. Think about that.

And sorry Mackinner, no offense to you personally, but I will not believe anything an Auto Insursance salesman/adjuster states due to the nature of what business you're in. Not all insurance companies check, perhaps yours doesn't, but some do and that's a fact my friend. I have 33 years of driving and driving record history and dealing with Insurance companies under my belt. You can't tell me different on how us consumers are checked on and ripped off in general. :p

And here's another fact, ironic at that:
CA State law states as long as you are not over 25mph the posted speed limit, you're eligible for traffic school as long as you haven't used traffic school within the past 18 months.
Now, here's the irony, Solano Co. judges will not allow traffic school if you're over 15 to 19mph. Depends on their mood :rolleyes: and heard this in actual Solano traffic court back in April this year. Now in Sonoma, it's anything above 20 posted for no traffic school. But the law says 25, go figure. :rolleyes:

Do online school if you want......
But have you ever had your premiums increased with no reason.
And the answer you get from the insurance co is, oh it's an across the board increase, everyones rates went up 300-500 dollars a year (with no claims or accidents too). Now that's BS!! Think they're really telling you the truth...Hahahaha...yeah...right. Nice how judges can over-ride state law based on their mood.:mad:

Yeah, I think I'll play it safe and just sleep in the classroom for 8 hrs.

Hey, watch out you may get junk email now that Warren has officially signed on G35 driver. He doesn't need to sit on my lap anymore. Just a joke (Warren)

Thanks,

G-

Hey, hey now, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause any fricton between everyone, but I do really appreciate so many replys on this subject. Hey, whatever you guys reply with, is very valuable information to me. Even if your right or wrong. This really helps me decide which route to go on.

Keep those reply comming. I haven't done anything yet.


Again,

Thanks a bunch!!! Gfans!

rgtopz:)

I have run many a driving record reports (MVR's) on drivers in my 5 years as an adjuster, never been on the sales side but the MVR's came from the same place, and never have I seen that type of listing on the reports. But everyone is entitled to do what they feel is best and helps them sleep better at night. Go with your gut. :)

Don't be sorry. And I'm not taking this as being friction and hope no one else is either.
Bottom line, I'll believe what a judge says over an online traffic school co and an insurance co will say.
Agree...go with your gut ;) And not doubting what you're saying, but.....
I did have a situation where I had points dropped (or never recorded) but the vehicle violation code number did show with the date of occurance on my public DMV driving record that I obtained after about 3 months when it was all done with in court. Traffic school for that occurance was not an option.
Personally, I have never done the online school thing, always done the classroom thing (good time to read a book or catch some zzzzz's) so I can't say for sure what the judge said to my son is true from personal experience regarding online traffic school. Classroom, yes nothing shows up and that I can hold my ground on.
But if anyone has done the online thing, please go get a driving record from the DMV and see if what I'm saying is true (no point, but record and date of violation). Think it stays on the record for 3yrs. as points do.
Peace :D

So all the people that have done online traffic school and NOT had their premiums affected mean nothing? Do you have an example of someone that used online traffic school and their premiums went up??? Stop causing hysteria. Going to an eight hour school is a waste of a day. Traffic101 took me about 90 minutes and they sent the certificate for me.

I have done the online traffic school thing 2 or 3 times now...never seen an increase in premiums from it and I still get my good driver discount..:D

obviously you are very paranoid about these things, so if that is the case then take your Saturday in a traffic school.

I'd tell you that insurance companies in general get a bad rep, and that most consumers have absolutely no idea how insurance works therefore they always think they are getting "screwed". Actually most studies done have determined that more than 70% of consumers believe it is okay to lie to your insurance company. So is it really the insurance company, or is it the consumer? Until you have worked behind an adjusters desk and seen the blatent abuse in the system I'd suggest you reserve judgement. Unfortunately most people point the finger at the insurance company because it is an easy target. However as a consumer you have a choice, you signed the papers and chose your insurance company. There are bad ones out there and there are good ones out there, you just have to make the educated decision to choose the right one. Most consumers simply go with the lowest price, and to be honest you do get what you pay for.

^ +1. Since I am an adjuster and all. ;)

Hmmmm, you should get a letter from the police dept/county court clerk about your speed citation. Somewhere on it, you would have a choice to pay the fee and going to class or dont pay the fee and show up in court. Most of us, want to get it over by pay the fee and take the class. For the class, class online such as Traffic 101 is perfectly fine. Remember, the first time conviction, your record would delete after you complete the 8-class online. I did that and printed out my completion certificate, mail it with my citation fee. Thing is a bit simple for the first time it should be clear after you took the class/online and after three years, it would be toss out of DMV databse. The second or third speed citation, that is the one would be in the record at DMV and insurance company would get it from DMV.

Call me paranoid, whatever...causing hysteria, whatever....
All I was trying to do was pass on what I heard from a traffic judge about online class being public record verses non public record by classroom and what that meant.

You ppl doubt my and the judges word and my personal experiences of 33 years of driving.....whatever. :rolleyes:

I'm in that 30% of ppl who don't lie to their insurance companies and have been screwed...whatever.

Enjoy whatever you choose.:p :)

right back at ya Mike!

Cru, hope it wasn't one of us that popped ya. Anyhow, I think wasting 8 hours is the point. Some people definitely NEED to spend eight hours contemplating their mistake.

P.S. Look out for Fremont PD. They've been signing up every other agency lately. No one is safe.

Been To 1 Too Many....

Looks like I'm going to be doing traffic school soon too! I got popped on 101. :(

Sure was, up in Butte Co. I paid my fine and did traffic school. First ticket in many, many years, but I deserved it.

Thanks for the heads up. FPD has a real reputation, but I've never had a problem (**knock on wood**).

Have you ever used an online traffic school? If so, did your insurance premiums go up because of it???

If you answered "No" than your 33 yrs of experience means NOTHING.

Give us some proof that the insurance companies are accessing the info and jacking up premiums.

It's very obvious that you haven't grasped anything I have said in my past posts or the questions I have asked. I won't waste my time quoting my posts that answer your questions. Go back and read what I've said and asked.

Since you have done online class, you go get a driving record and anwer your own question which I asked before you, as well as what everyone else is wondering about too, instead of making me the bad guy who was only trying to pass on some helpful information.

I'll be sure to keep my mouth shut, on your behalf sonny boy, next time I get helpful information that I think is important for fellow G'ers to know about.

Don't even know why I'm wasting my breath here still on this post right now.

Give us some proof that the insurance companies are accessing the info and jacking up premiums.

Sorry if I'm making you angry, that's not my intent here. I just don't think you should be giving out information without any facts to back it up. So far you have presented no evidence to back-up your claim.

cru thanks for posting the email. As we all assumed there is no back door deals going down between insurance companies and the DMV.

No problem. Those online traffic schools would fold overnight if they were releasing information to auto insurance companies.

Sorry, I won't post my driving record or insurance declaration sheet to prove what happened to me for the whole internet to see. If what I said that has happened to me personally is not good enough, so be it and and sorry for you and apparently others too, doubting my experience and rallying support with your cute email sent to a seleted few.
When did I ever make those claims?
Once again you have misinterpeted what I have said.

Perhaps we will all meet up someday, being were in NorCal, and maybe we can try this subject again verbally, without twisting what I said and putting words in my mouth. And perhaps I can try to explain what happened to me and how I know my insuance co, without DMV telling them, jacked my rates and took my good driver status away for three years. But then again, why would I want to waste my breath again to people who don't understand what I say and come to their own conclusions of what they thought I meant.

This post has gone way off subject, has been jacked to he11 and quite honestly, I'm insulted by the lack of interpertation of what I say and what incorrect claims that have been shoved down my throat by the cute little posted comments/stabes from your seleted chosen privately posted EM.

The misinterpetation and games children play.....so sad.

LOL . . . Gabe, look at what you started. ;) :D The question that you have to ask yourself is . . . "Do you feel lucky?" . . . "Well, do ya?" :D

Myself, I would simply do this on-line. I trust that day is long in coming. ;)

Andy, he must have, he's the one looking the help. LOL

Yeah, sure!!

This is what you said: "Personally, I have never done the online school thing, always done the classroom thing (good time to read a book or catch some zzzzz's) so I can't say for sure what the judge said to my son is true from personal experience regarding online traffic school."
So where is your personal experience with online traffic school raising your insurance premiums vs. in class traffic school???:confused: :confused: :confused:

What experience??? You don’t have any when it comes to online traffic school. Meanwhile several people have chimed in saying they have used online traffic school with no problems.

I'm not trying to rally anybody, I don't need to. You haven't presented any facts to support your argument. I said I would email Traffic101 about this issue and I did. I posted their response as promised. If you choose not to believe the response I received than that's your right. If what you say is true than the online traffic schools would lose business at an astronomical rate. I don't think that's the case since so many seem to be thriving.

On line traffic school, though quick and convient, is public record.
Your insurance co can still find out you had a moving violation.
Did you not say that??? :confused:



How is it you can attribute your raise in premiums to online traffic school, you never took an online class!!!

I’m not sure what you’re saying here but sounds like a paranoid conspiracy theory to me. I didn’t PM or email anybody about this thread. I simply posted what my experience has been with online traffic school. What’s you’re experience with online traffic school? I’ll answer that for you…NONE.

One other thing, the judge in a courtroom is not under oath, only the witnesses. Like someone else suggested he/she probably told you that so your son would take the in class school and learn a lesson. Doing the online thing would let him off too easily.

Point, Cru.

Ahhh Cru, I will try this one more time in trying to straighten this out.
You're hearing me wrong my friend in what I've been trying to say, explain and claim.

Let me start by saying I missed your post on the EM. Now I see it, so my bad on the Rallying and privite EM thing :o I rescind my comments pertaining to that. Of course driving schools don't report directly to insurance co. I never claimed they did. They report to DMV from the certificate they send, correct me if I'm wrong there.

What the judge was saying is classroom school's certif. is nonpublic record meaning.... DMV will not record anything about it. The point and the violation number w/date is not recorded on your record when they receive the schools certif.

But when DMV receives the certif from online school, it's public record meaning....the point is not recorded, but the violation number w/date is recorded on your record.

I mentioned/asked, more than once, if anyone could confirm this with their driving record and in taking online school.
No one has. So we still do not know if the Judge was yanking everyones chain in court that day or not.
I also disclosed more than once that I've never done online school so I can't personally claim what the judge said is true. Again, why I asked for confirmation from anyone out there with personal experience.

This is why I originally chimmed in. Thought this would be appreciated by others to know of what I was just recently told and did not know myself.

So with that picture painted, hopefully understood what is meant by public and nonpublic record and assuming the Judge is correct and what your driving record will/could look like and with my non traffic school situation record results relating to what online school may do to your record results, let's move on to the debated subject of Insurance rates being raised.

I never stated that all ins. co. check your record, some do, some don't. Though, I would think most do when it comes time for renewal of your policy and possibly just randomly. Most like to know what you've been up to for the past year. They have access to your record as employers do, including ourselves to see if you have any moving violations. Keep in mind, points are used as a score in determining whether you keep your license or have it suspended by DMV. Too many points, loose license, but moving violations are moving violations with or without points attached to them.
Correct me I'm wrong, but doesn't DMV report to ins co when you have a point added or a reported accident? That's a given for a premium increase, no?

The point there was, (assuming the Judge is correct about online school and your record reflecting the occurence but not the violation point against you), you run the chance of your ins. co. seeing that violation and counting that against you if they happen to run your DMV driving record. A violation is a violation, points have nothing to do with this.
Don't insurance rates increase if you have recorded violations? Mine do and did, due to a recorded violation on my record that my insurance co saw when they checked my DMV record. Driving school had nothing to do with this personal experience as I mentioned before. No one told my ins co I had this violation, but when they ran my record, there it was.
This is what the judge was saying about online school, your record will look the same as mine did (non traffic school related) and the ins co will see the moving violation if they check.

When my policy was renewed, my rates went through the roof, my policy declaration page showed my 'good driver' status dropped, which took 3 yrs to get back and I had no accidents and no driving points on my driving record for that year.

Think I can safely say my rates went up because of what was on my driving record. That's how I claimed my rates increased. I never claimed my rates increased from online school.

I really wish someone who has taken online school recently, would confirm what shows or better yet, what doesn't show up on their driving record. If someone decides to do this, give it some time after the certif is sent. It takes awhile for DMV to reflect the change on your public record.
Then we and especially I, since I'm the one who brought it up :rolleyes: can know for sure if the Judge was full of **** or not.

Hope this clears the air.
Sorry for the length.
I just get frustrate when ppl don't understand what I say or try to explain and it gets twisted into a conclusion or claim I never made.

Cru....peace out bro. Hope I expained things better and you have a better understanding as to what I was trying to say. ;)

But I have to mention that if you're going to quote me and/or only little portions of that, you need to include my whole quote and prior comment I'm responding to. Without that, this is how you're twisting my comments/words around to make them sound completely different to what I'm saying and responding to.
It's like reality shows, they can take quotes or little pieces of quotes ppl make to portray them or make what they say completely different to what they meant. Okay??
This is truely too long. so I won't paste examples, but I hope you do see what I mean by that.
No respect lost here on my end, hope the same on yours. :D
Hope to meet you some day at a Meet and/or Dyno day. Want to talk to you about your oil consumption/engine failure thing you had awhile back. I have the same thing happening with only 7700mi. No bad noises, thank God, but almost quart per 1000 and getting worse.

BOT:
:eek: My son just got popped again!! Doing 80 on I80. Tennager in a fast 92' Lude. Like none of us ever go 80 on the 80...haha. :p
Aaaaargh....no traffic school allowed for that one, he just finished school on his most very recent one.
Would someone please PM me some KY...know I'll be bending over with my premiums for that one. It's hurts to walk already :rolleyes:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOw!:eek: :confused: This has been a hot topic for a while now. I orginally posted with about a week ago. That's a good thing. I like to see different views and opinions about this.

Keep this subject flowing.

Thanks again,

rgtopz

* I still haven't done anything yet.

^^^ Sorry to jack your thread.
I'm done with trying to explain what I heard from a Judge and how my rates went up to the illiterate and taking snips of my quotes out of context.

Hope someone chimes in with their driving record after completing the online thing proving the Judge was wrong and full of BS.

Good luck. :)

I don't see why there would be a difference between the two processes.:confused: So I asked a former CHP officer who now works for us. He said regardless of what type of traffic school you choose the DMV will have a record of your violation. Point or no point, online or in class traffic school there will be a record at the DMV.

The one thing that you kept saying is "Assuming what the Judge says is right". That's a big assumption. I'm not saying Judges are liars, but you may want to consider the Judge told you a little white lie to make sure your son did the 8 hr in class school and teach him a lesson. The online class would be letting him off the hook much too easily. I may have said that earlier, if I did, sorry.

It was never an issue of respect for me. Just debating a point. No offense was intended and I hope none was taken. It's nice to debate like adults without all the childish name calling you get from all the punk kids on this forum. Feel free to PM me about the oil issue. I won't be hitting up any of the upcoming meets as I work all those dates.

Time to take his keys away.:(

PS - I'm officially letting this one go. I hope it works out for the OP whatever he chooses.

Good Lord . . . This thread is totally useless, at this point. Both sides are well taken. Less we forget, the original poster wanted info on an on-line traffic school. That's it! No sense in stirring up the pot anymore. What's the point? :(

LOL . . . Go to your rooms and do not come out until Shane says it's okay to do as such. ;) :D

Hey, I trust everyone will have a great weekend. ;)

Leave it to the old guy to lecture us.:rolleyes: :p

Did I just get a 'time-out'.......:eek: :( :p
^^^+10

Thanx in offering to talk with me on the oil consumption thing also ;)

Everyone have a great, but SAFE Labor Day Wknd. :D

LOL . . . Nice shot, Eloy. :( ;) :D

Eloy, John . . . It just seemed that it was a waste of time for 2 intelligent people, both with good points, to continue a never ending debate. Please accept my apologies, if I appeared to be a Biotch. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D

Besides, Eloy is twice my size and I ain't taking a chance on John. ;) :D