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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FinallyGotaG
You do realize that some race cars run more than 3 degrees of negative camber, right?

Must have something to do with good handling...
That's because they are performing at some extreme level to warrant it. Up to that point, they might be actually hurting performance. (as they might not care how it performs under that limit).

So if you are running a neg camber setting that's only good at some extreme peformance level, ask yourself, did you actually help/hurt your car's performance? (because 95% of the time, you won't be at that level where performance "might" be marginally improved). Remember, handling is about contact patch.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Don't want to argue but just pointing out that you changed your focus from negative camber to stretched tires. FinallyGotaG responded to your comment on negative camber not improving handling and that is false in itself. The G35 comes from the factory with negative camber as well as a plethora of other sport cars like the 350z, m3, evo, etc. I'm sure you will not find a single article that says negative camber will hinder a car's handling, even with everyday driving.

Now the stretched tire look I can respect your opinion but just wanted to say that your initial comment on negative camber is what warranted the reply, not stretched tires.
well said, my bimmer comes stock w/ -2deg of camber. 12k miles later and my tires still have plenty of thread, for at least another 10k miles.

im also not a fan of the super stretch tire, i like driving fast

OP, car looks fantastic, great stance!
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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tire life depends on what tire you are running. ie.. UTOG. I ran my sport pilots down pretty good on my G35 with only Z springs in the back. (inside tire wear)
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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hell, even an X5 has wicked OEM camber settings.


Anyway...............dig the look OP. Neochrome or blue rays lugs would really bring it together.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
That's because they are performing at some extreme level to warrant it. Up to that point, they might be actually hurting performance. (as they might not care how it performs under that limit).

So if you are running a neg camber setting that's only good at some extreme peformance level, ask yourself, did you actually help/hurt your car's performance? (because 95% of the time, you won't be at that level where performance "might" be marginally improved). Remember, handling is about contact patch.
I was only giving GW a hard time...dont turn this in to another Jeff vs Homie thread....

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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Congrats. IMHO you had your fun at the expense of your perceived intelligence.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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wrong...I stated facts. And then it went even further OT when GW brought up stretched tires. Which that I was not disagreeing with.

Bottom line is. extreme camber for extreme conditions. you are correct. however OP doesnt have extreme camber and that was the point that I was making....his camber will benefit "fun" daily driving conditions

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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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You qualified the OP's camber by mentioning race cars. Race cars use extreme camber. So you brought that into the discussion, not anyone else.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GeeWillikers
They remind me of the wagon wheels you used to see on 4X4s in the 80s and 90s.

Not a fan of the negative camber look either. It does nothing for handling and makes the car look cheap. Drop is perfect and overall stance looks pretty dialed in.

My opinion doesn't mean beans. If it makes you happy and pleases your eye then it's perfect. Overall, I think it's a good looking ride.
GW mentions nothing of the amount of camber. He even states he likes the stance.

Originally Posted by FinallyGotaG
You do realize that some race cars run more than 3 degrees of negative camber, right?

Must have something to do with good handling...
It was you that introduced the amount of camber and the race car issue as a retort to GW's reply.

It might all been good fun. Sure. But like I said, you did it at the expense of your perceived knowledge on the subject. Just my view
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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what is the point you're trying to make?

or are you arguing for the sake of arguing cause that is pretty much the ONLY thing you do on this forum

OP doesn't have extreme camber...GW said camber does nothing for handling...

I stated that racecars have camber for handling proving that camber benefits handling...

do you want me to admit i was wrong because you have some kind of superiority complex??? get over it!
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
. But like I said, you did it at the expense of your perceived knowledge on the subject. Just my view
I dont have a perceived knowledge of the subject. I raced my G when I was in texas on road courses and the shop that I brought my car to, learned me on the benefits of camber, toe, ride height, corner balancing, tire pressure, spring preload, damper adjustments....EVERYTHING RELATED TO HANDLING.

just because you have read and probably contributed to every argument about handling issues on this forum doesnt mean that I dont know what IM talking about..

yes you are right about the line between extreme and normal conditions...

im right about the facts that I stated...

where is the argument?
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Um wasn't it you that was arguing with GW just for the sake of making an arguement? Because it SURE looked like you stuck that statement about race car camber to goad GW into some debate completely OT of what GW commented on. (well yeah, you actually admitted this)

Yes, you might know about handling. You just didn't illustrate it in any way, shape or form in THIS discussion. ie.. "perceived intelligence".

It's good that shop "learned you" though.

*Jeff is giving you a hard time on that*
 

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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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so can i get my PhD in automotive technicianship/mechanic/expert from the University of GDriver?
 
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