DYNO DAY @ Church Automotive April 1, 2006

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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Exclamation Tentative DYNO DAY at CHurch Automotive! Sign uP!

Hey guys, there is a list building over at my350z.com and I just wanted to get more of us out there to make sure we all get a discount.

Location:
300 Quay Ave.
Wilmington, CA 90744

Time & Date: Tentatively set for April 1, 2006 @ 10AM till close[/b]

Prices:
$50/car up to 10 cars
$45/car (10 or more cars)

What you will get:

3 dynapack runs with A/F readings. Great way to get a baseline run. For those with modifications a great way to see what is working for others and to also see if your car is running safely and at a price of under $50 that is more than worth it!

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1. gimpster621 April 1st
2. rlw888 April 1st
3. mikeg8r April 1st
4. Tom Jones Anytime
5. Rickdogg April 1st
6. Romero april 1st 00 mustang
7. Logan april 1st 05 mustang
8. IF350Z April 1st
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 02:37 AM
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does this give u rwhp or flywheel?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 03:24 AM
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i'll come if u guys pay and don't cry at the dyno numbers my car puts out
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
does this give u rwhp or flywheel?
It's dynapack so it is with wheels off. This will give the best comparison of what the different power that mods make on our cars since it eliminates variables such as tire/wheel combo, tire pressure, camber, etc. Unless you are already set on what you built and ready to see what WHP it lays down on a dynojet, dynapack readings is the best tool to measure HP gains and to make comparisons. Anytime you can elimate variables it helps with testing, which is why Turbonetics and JWT use these types of dynos
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 03:50 AM
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i'll come if u guys pay and don't cry at the dyno numbers my car puts out

ummmmm okay?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 04:02 AM
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ummmmm okay?
Dont mind the guy. He is waiting to get banned
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rickdogg
It's dynapack so it is with wheels off. This will give the best comparison of what the different power that mods make on our cars since it eliminates variables such as tire/wheel combo, tire pressure, camber, etc. Unless you are already set on what you built and ready to see what WHP it lays down on a dynojet, dynapack readings is the best tool to measure HP gains and to make comparisons. Anytime you can elimate variables it helps with testing, which is why Turbonetics and JWT use these types of dynos
I had my car dynoed there in august. When i posted the results everyone said that it is hp to the crank not the whp. Thats why i wanted to know if it was the rwhp graph.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 04:41 AM
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dynapacks just show more hp than dynojets. its not the exact number at the crank, its not the exact number at the wheels. its the dynapack number at the wheels. just like a dynojet is not the exact number at the wheels, its the dynojet number at the wheels. but it just so happens that most people refer to dynojet numbers. None of the numbers are exact - they are relative.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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No worries. Here is a few informative posts that Shawn Church chimed in on my350z.com

http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...t=technosquare

The graph says flywheel no matter whether you apply a transmission correction or not. Dynapack's idea of a transmission correction is a straight percentage. This is applied through the transmission correction factor, or "TCF". Note the box at the bottom of the printout. It says "TCF 1.00". This indicates that no correction was applied. If the TCF was 1.15, then a 15% correction factor would be applied.

At Church Automotive Testing we do not use a TCF other than 1.0 unless specifically requested by a customer (even then we don't like to because it can be used to mislead people).

In our experience, a RWD car loses about 30-35 hp from flywheel to hubs on our dyno. This has been very consistent. FWD cars are in the 25 hp range.

A stock 287 hp Z puts down 255 hp +/- a few on our Dynapack. The 296 put down by RickDogg is a full 40 hp above the average. It is also higher than a E46 M3 with an aftermarket exhaust. It is a full 25+hp above the new 298-300 hp VQ motors.

Shawn Church
Its not a roller dyno - that's why losses are lower. You're not spinning up close to 100 lbs of wheel and tire. On a Dynojet, dropping 5 lbs of wheel and tire weight per side can net you several hp worth of gains since more energy is available to accelerate the dyno rollers. Now imagine dropping it all. On a Dynojet, his car should have been in the high 270's-low 280's hp range to the wheels depending upon wheel weight.

As for the gains, his initial Technosquare tuneup was _way_ off. It was richer than what we'd tune a forced induction car for. He only gained a few hp from the plenum mod (4 hp I think). The rest of the gains from his previous visit were from the vastly improved TS tune.

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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thnx for the info. I had 262 on that dyno and i was shocked. But now i see how it works.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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If you wanted a baseline number or wtvr then it's fine.
I went to get my car tuned there and the graph showed really lean so I asked him if that was too lean (kuz I knew it was) and he said it was fine...Took off and it was detonating like a mother fcker. Called him and left him a message about the detonating that monday (2 days later) and he never called me back.
I know a lot of ppl have had good experience with him, that's why I went there but he just let my car go detonating. It could have easily cost me my engine.
 
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