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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:36 AM
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HBSpeed or Church??

I'm in a toss-up between these two. I've heard great things about both and can't decide. Church is a little further from me than HBSpeed, but they're also quoting me a cheaper price. I've heard if Shawn Church does the tune then it's guaranteed good, but sometimes he has his people do the work (and bad tunes have happened). Does anyone here have direct experience with both of these two shops? I'm looking to get my tune next weekend...if I can ever decide.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:42 AM
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are you fi or na?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 01:50 AM
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if you're worried about Shawn performing the tune, just request that he does it. I'm positive he'll accomodate you. I know a fistful of people who have gone to Church and all have come out smiling (self included). Everytime I see those dyno sheets, I'm always amazed.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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I'd go with Shawn.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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Church!
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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Church dyno is known to show high numbers...but he is also recognized as a very very good tuner.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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i'm going to church 's this weekend....i was debating on church or technosquare but decided on churchs cux ,,,i couldn't get over the fact that technosquare charges for dyno pulls even if you're getting tuned by them

glad to hear that a lot of people are content with church's work
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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I think Techonosquare grossly overcharges for stuff...unfortunately.

Church is good and will do a great job.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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I'm N/A and want to stay that way. Good to hear all the positive reviews about Church. I just got the last of my parts in today and will install them tomorrow afternoon. Tuning will most definitely be happening next week. Thanks for all the input.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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Just go to Church. Even if Shawn doesn't tune, he will probably be there and supervise and won't let you leave until he's satisfied with the tune.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 12:35 AM
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I've been to Church Automotive a few times for dyno's and once for an Osiris tune.

Shawn is a great guy and knows his stuff. I was satisfied with my tune.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 12:55 AM
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Shawn has tuned boatloads of Gs and Zs with Osiris and many other cars/platforms as well... He is extremely knowledgeable and has exceptional customer service (he is to the tuning world what Tony @ Motordyne is to the breather mod world, customer service wise as well as ability).

I had lunch with Shawn the other day and he's tuning some really amazing cars - multiple track record cars - and now getting into Euro/Exotics...

I've had several tune/re-tune by Shawn and have never left unhappy... he won't let you. He takes the time to get things dialed in to where you will be happy you went there.

Needless to say, I endorse Church Automotive Testing!
 
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 01:12 AM
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what are your latest number Mike?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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did a bunch of pulls... at one point peak hp was 297 but low to mid wasnt where I wanted it... when he got the low end where I like it peak was in low 290s...

The car gets heat soaked real easy... and because Shawn is so thorough and dedicated, we had to shut it down a few times to let it cool down... The new cat did have me running a bit lean - the a/f adjustment got me back where I'm accustomed in the low end... So now I'm not sure the heavy rotors from the Ake BBK are that much of a detriment - because low end trq picked up... I had been thinking that the weight of the rotors are what has caused my sluggish low end.

The car had gone through a bunch of stuff since last tune - not so much performance; but a lot of whacky stuff... the only reason I went back was becasue I installed new o2 sensor (previous was bad and had the SES light turned off), needed it re-set and to check a/f from new cat (pass side went bad)...

The car basically is what is was after initial cam and header install... just getting it back to normal.

I'm tempted to get Tony's ART pipes and re-tune... I dont know if I'm going to for sure yet...
 
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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^I'm tempted to get cams and headers also.

We should get Shawn to overlay our dyno's for reference. I know it not so accurate but a good reference point to start.

See my tuning thread to see if I would benifit.
 
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