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OCG35 09-26-2011 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by SDGenius (Post 6135143)
wow, a lot of haters on here

yep... it's what G35Driver has come to these days... :rolleyes:

That's why I spend most of my time on CalGuns now. :D

SDGenius 09-26-2011 01:23 AM

hahahah, too much my350 attitude bleeding in, LOL

OCG35 09-26-2011 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by redpearl99 (Post 6135207)
so if Mustag makes 210, Dyno Jet makes 260, and Dynapack makes 300 then can someone tell me which is accepted in the industry as the standard/real dyno

As an "industry standard" dynos aren't even used for bragging rights... they are used to test mods and tune... and as such, the dynapack is the industry standard for most respectable tuners due to their consistency.

For forum racing - it's which ever one the guy that wants to make his point is using.

bluedevils95 09-26-2011 02:01 AM

welcome to the 300 club!!!

Jairen 09-26-2011 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by OCG35 (Post 6135310)
there's no glory in saying "I hang with more modified AT (or sedan)...

Just sayin' bro. :)

I say there is glory IMHO when you can hang with a more modded car just like the OP did. If you compare your mod list compared to mine, plus your sedan weight advantage, it would be no competition on paper.

Granted I have a REVUP, I have very minimal mods plus a tune.

All I was saying is than i hung with a more modded G just like the OP did.

Why hate on me for hanging with a more modded G regardless of how many doors it has or what version VQ it has? Just give credit to where it's deserved.

OCG35 09-26-2011 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by Jairen (Post 6135405)
I say there is glory IMHO when you can hang with a more modded car just like the OP did. If you compare your mod list compared to mine, plus your sedan weight advantage, it would be no competition on paper.

Granted I have a REVUP, I have very minimal mods plus a tune.

All I was saying is than i hung with a more modded G just like the OP did.

Why hate on me for hanging with a more modded G regardless of how many doors it has or what version VQ it has? Just give credit to where it's deserved.

No hate dude... stock Corvettes can hang with modified civics too... i was just saying apples to apples makes more sense... its all good

Jairen 09-26-2011 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by OCG35 (Post 6135446)
No hate dude... stock Corvettes can hang with modified civics too... i was just saying apples to apples makes more sense... its all good

No problem.

zeroscythe 09-26-2011 04:19 AM

Tested our new lower plenum today at churches using my friends stock 04 6spd 350z.. Their dyno definitely reads high.. Here's the homies #'s, completely stock base run at 263whp and 277whp with our lower plenum installed..
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...e/78e8bd24.jpg

03threefiftyz 09-26-2011 09:05 AM

I don't see much, if any, hate....


Just some pointing out of the obvious.

OCG35 09-26-2011 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by zeroscythe (Post 6135480)
Tested our new lower plenum today at churches using my friends stock 04 6spd 350z.. Their dyno definitely reads high.. Here's the homies #'s, completely stock base run at 263whp and 277whp with our lower plenum installed..
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...e/78e8bd24.jpg

That's HUGE gains!!!!

Is this a modified lower, or is it an entirely new desin?

OCG35 09-26-2011 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Jairen (Post 6135405)
I If you compare your mod list compared to mine, plus your sedan weight advantage, it would be no competition on paper.

BTW, there isn't much (if any) weight advantage... my car gained 100lbs with the body work and pig heavy G37 rotors... I have RB 2 PC now so the beat would probably be worse... but since those are "mods" too, maybe I should throw the stockers back (which are even lighter) and see how much lower the ETs are..

I mean I might as well have the weight advantage since your using that in your comparison...

zeroscythe 09-26-2011 01:02 PM

it's a modified non-rev up lower plenum.. We took a little inspiration from the mrev2 and took it a few steps further by slightly modifying all the runners not just the front two.. Hoping to see better #'s on a rev-up

anywho sorry for jacking your thread.. But I agree that dyno #'s are just to give u an idea of what your running or how different tunes / mods will affect your car.. In the end track times are all that really matter anyways


Originally Posted by OCG35 (Post 6135594)
That's HUGE gains!!!!

Is this a modified lower, or is it an entirely new desin?


JBF 09-26-2011 01:14 PM

who cares about drag racing?

These cars weren't designed for it.

Go run a canyon, or a road course and see who's faster.

LordFappington 09-26-2011 01:18 PM

I have 302.5 hp

CandlestickPark 09-26-2011 01:45 PM

Lets keep this on topic and stop making references to street racing. Thanks.

butkiss1 09-26-2011 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by CandlestickPark (Post 6135910)
Lets keep this on topic and stop making references to street racing. Thanks.

Thanks Marcus , Way to some in and handle the s8it
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmurphpix/3591815193/

Dsskyline 09-26-2011 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by zeroscythe (Post 6135480)
Tested our new lower plenum today at churches using my friends stock 04 6spd 350z.. Their dyno definitely reads high.. Here's the homies #'s, completely stock base run at 263whp and 277whp with our lower plenum installed..
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...e/78e8bd24.jpg

Nice!! similar to the gains I got from my ported lower and collector. I gained almost 15hp on a dynojet. Did you touch the collector?

Should see more gains on a rev-up.

zeroscythe 09-26-2011 09:26 PM

no since we were just testing our lower plenum.. But we do have a ported and gasket matched lower collector that i'd like to use next time.. But yea we should definitely see better gains on a rev up.. Now it's just a question of finding someone with a stock rev up for some dyno time


Originally Posted by Dsskyline (Post 6136077)
Nice!! similar to the gains I got from my ported lower and collector. I gained almost 15hp on a dynojet. Did you touch the collector?

Should see more gains on a rev-up.


G35SedanGrn 09-26-2011 11:12 PM

You guys are jealous cuz my butt dyno says my car makes 302.5 whp

SE5spd 09-26-2011 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by G35SedanGrn (Post 6137100)
You guys are jealous cuz my butt dyno says my car makes 302.5 whp
lets go race from a dig in some gravel ;)

you make more then me.

G35SedanGrn 09-26-2011 11:14 PM

Bro have you not seen my beast? ITS FAYSTTTTEEEE I SHOULD MAKE A THREAD TO BRAG ABOUT ITTTT

butkiss1 09-27-2011 05:11 PM

ello Driving Enthusiast, Can't wait until our next event on Sunday, Dec. 11th at Buttonwillow Raceway? Then come out to a Buttonwillow Open Test day on Friday, Oct. 14th. This is an event where the track itself opens their doors to anyone wanting to drive on the track. This in NOT a Max Grip event but simply Max Grip staff and friends will be attending to have some fun on the track. The cost is $200 for full day 8am to 5pm and $110 for half day but they do afternoon half day only meaning from 1pm to 5pm and you pay the track directly. Additional information about the track can be found at: www.ButtonwillowRaceway.com If you are interested in joining us, we will be meeting at 5:30 am and leaving at 5:50 sharp at: Bob's Big Boy 8274 Sunland Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 91352 It is about a 2 hour drive
from there to the track.

This is the perfect solution to the power question that some us have.I will start a thread on it today in the track section.
I Hope that you ladies from up north can make it

SE5spd 09-27-2011 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6138482)
ello Driving Enthusiast, Can't wait until our next event on Sunday, Dec. 11th at Buttonwillow Raceway? Then come out to a Buttonwillow Open Test day on Friday, Oct. 14th. This is an event where the track itself opens their doors to anyone wanting to drive on the track. This in NOT a Max Grip event but simply Max Grip staff and friends will be attending to have some fun on the track. The cost is $200 for full day 8am to 5pm and $110 for half day but they do afternoon half day only meaning from 1pm to 5pm and you pay the track directly. Additional information about the track can be found at: www.ButtonwillowRaceway.com If you are interested in joining us, we will be meeting at 5:30 am and leaving at 5:50 sharp at: Bob's Big Boy 8274 Sunland Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 91352 It is about a 2 hour drive
from there to the track.

This is the perfect solution to the power question that some us have.I will start a thread on it today in the track section.
I Hope that you ladies from up north can make it

ill be at thunderhill 10-7-11/11-14-11 and 80% sure laguna seca 12-30-11/31-11

I might be doing infineon(sears point) sometime in november with TMR too.

come up north. :DOMO:

gabe3d 09-27-2011 06:15 PM

Good to hear that you met your goals.

Algy 09-28-2011 08:12 PM

:crying: why is no one answering my question about if it is safe bumping up the rev?

zeroscythe 09-28-2011 08:40 PM

It's safe but pointless considering our cars don't make power that high in the power band without at least having new cams


Originally Posted by Algy (Post 6140949)
:crying: why is no one answering my question about if it is safe bumping up the rev?


butkiss1 09-28-2011 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Algy (Post 6140949)
:crying: why is no one answering my question about if it is safe bumping up the rev?

Stock redline on a 5 AT is 6750
I make power to about 7000.
Shift at like 7050/7100
Been tuned for like 3 years now.
No problems related to the tune at all
Vq35de is tougher than u think

Algy 09-28-2011 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6141099)
Stock redline on a 5 AT is 6750
I make power to about 7000.
Shift at like 7050/7100
Been tuned for like 3 years now.
No problems related to the tune at all
Vq35de is tougher than u think

So you are telling me my tuner didnt know what he was talking about? I could of bumped up my stock rev up higher???? without upgrading the valve springs or valves or cams?!?!

If so Im going to call uprev and tell them they didnt even increase my rev!

Algy 09-28-2011 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6141099)
Stock redline on a 5 AT is 6750
I make power to about 7000.
Shift at like 7050/7100
Been tuned for like 3 years now.
No problems related to the tune at all
Vq35de is tougher than u think

I thought yours was at 7600? And you have no new valve springs or valves or cams? and it runs up there just fine?

butkiss1 09-28-2011 11:35 PM

When I first got tuned Shawn Church told me that he bumpedup to 7600 I was extremely concerned. But after a few conversations on the subject, I conceded to his knowledge.
your tuner was probably not that familiar with the Vq engine. The tachometer reads high. Nissan designed it like that.

butkiss1 09-28-2011 11:39 PM

It is set it 76 but I shift at 71

Algy 09-28-2011 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6141344)
When I first got tuned Shawn Church told me that he bumpedup to 7600 I was extremely concerned. But after a few conversations on the subject, I conceded to his knowledge.
your tuner was probably not that familiar with the Vq engine. The tachometer reads high. Nissan designed it like that.

Yeah when i look at my dyno charts, it drops off barely at 6750.... more like 6650... ugh.. when i look at your dyno charts it drops at 6900-7000.

Also when I rev it doesnt even go passed 7. like you said if it read higher and it was set at 7 like the tuner told me, i would have been reading 7100 or 7200.

butkiss1 09-29-2011 12:04 AM

Higher Rev only works in tip mode

Algy 09-29-2011 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6141404)
Higher Rev only works in tip mode

Already know that.
:biggthumpup:

OCG35 09-29-2011 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Algy (Post 6141313)
So you are telling me my tuner didnt know what he was talking about? I could of bumped up my stock rev up higher???? without upgrading the valve springs or valves or cams?!?!

If so Im going to call uprev and tell them they didnt even increase my rev!

yes - not only is it safe, it is very common...


Technosquare determined years ago that 7100 is the safe limit for first gen DE (for those that dont know, Technosqaure was the first to crack the ECU and was the only tune available for several years)...

Beyond 7100 it is advised to upgrade valve springs, oil pump and rod bolts... cams and valves have nothing to do with the safety of higher rev limiter - but can be part of helping take advantage of power in the upper end...

The reason people bump rev limiter (to safe limit) on stock internals is to max out revs and the drag strip so that you can finish the 1/4 mile in 3rd gear (shifting to 4th will fubar the entire run).


All of this is very old information, very much common knowledge to many of us that have been around a while... and have been racing and modding Gs for a while...

BTW, UpRev bumps rev limiter too... I have no idea why they wouldn't have bumped yours

OCG35 09-29-2011 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by zeroscythe (Post 6140994)
It's safe but pointless considering our cars don't make power that high in the power band without at least having new cams

see post above about 1/4 mile in 3rd gear...

granted, I dont know why MT do it (and I dont care cause I'm not MT)...

zeroscythe 09-29-2011 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by OCG35 (Post 6141888)
see post above about 1/4 mile in 3rd gear...

granted, I dont know why MT do it (and I dont care cause I'm not MT)...

yea I didn't think about it in a drag race sense but I can see how it'd be necessar.. on stock internals tho and with our restrictive stock plenum it's very difficult to keep making power that high up in the band

KingCobra 09-29-2011 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by zeroscythe (Post 6136915)
no since we were just testing our lower plenum.. But we do have a ported and gasket matched lower collector that i'd like to use next time.. But yea we should definitely see better gains on a rev up.. Now it's just a question of finding someone with a stock rev up for some dyno time

Wonder if you guys will get better numbers than Motordyne...keep us posted!

KingCobra 09-29-2011 07:26 PM

As others have pointed out, its alot harder to launch a manual than autos who simply just stomp on the gas and dont worry about anything else...why do you think theres so many videos of slow cars "beating" others cars like OMG I'm a civic and i just beat a porsche when you can clearly see that the other guy either didnt launch right or missed a shift....it takes a lot more experience to actually perfect the launches and shifts in a stick shifts to get the best times possible as opposed to an automatic where anyone can just jump in any type of car and get pretty much all the best time that auto car can run...

I wouldn't brag about beating a stick shift with like 10hp more, go to the track get your best time for the day, then compare...I also don't know why you would raise your limiter to 7600 when you shift at 7100, i guess just another thing to brag about haha :)

Nonethless cool numbers, I'm sure I'll get to those numbers with the mods i have planned -_-

Algy 09-30-2011 09:43 PM

Well I took my car back to uprev today. Got the rev bumped up to 7200. Apparently it was already at 7000... not to me.. bc I compared it the stock map and the dyno sheets.. it rev the same. Now with the bump of 7200 its a world of a difference IMO. :biggthumpup:

Trickstyle 09-30-2011 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by OCG35 (Post 6141884)
yes - not only is it safe, it is very common...


Technosquare determined years ago that 7100 is the safe limit for first gen DE (for those that dont know, Technosqaure was the first to crack the ECU and was the only tune available for several years)...

Beyond 7100 it is advised to upgrade valve springs, oil pump and rod bolts... cams and valves have nothing to do with the safety of higher rev limiter - but can be part of helping take advantage of power in the upper end...

The reason people bump rev limiter (to safe limit) on stock internals is to max out revs and the drag strip so that you can finish the 1/4 mile in 3rd gear (shifting to 4th will fubar the entire run).


All of this is very old information, very much common knowledge to many of us that have been around a while... and have been racing and modding Gs for a while...

BTW, UpRev bumps rev limiter too... I have no idea why they wouldn't have bumped yours

good info, the VQ's even more of a beast than i thought! I'm still in the learning/researching process of FI as well as tuning so this is good to know. can my OEM ECU be tuned to increase the rev limit? my cars all stock and its kinda frustrating knowing the VQ has that much more potential energy being held from us. I'm sure Nissan probably did it for longevity and stability but I want its power unlocked!


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