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butkiss1 09-25-2011 02:32 AM

303.3 whp
 
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Finally broke 300WHP barrier, Got a refresher tune today ,gotta post descent numbers for tomorrows dyno day. :biggthumpup:

redpearl99 09-25-2011 02:59 AM

Looking good, I'm actually a bit surprised you broke 300 with your list of mods

Equipped4dr 09-25-2011 03:02 AM

those are sick numbers!!

bigc 09-25-2011 03:37 AM

congrats, but people are gonna give you crap for posting a dynapack number.

(Stealth Inc.) 09-25-2011 04:04 AM

nice numbers you went forwards i went backwards lol.

Algy 09-25-2011 04:33 AM

if you dont mind me asking but how are you able to bump up your rev limiter on your 5at from 6750 to 7600 without any internal mods? I only ask this bc from your mod list you dont state anything about upgrading internals.. just air mods.

blaccG35 09-25-2011 05:27 AM

nice #'s...was just looking in your garage and seen your 1/4 time 14.0 what were you putting down when you got that time?

butkiss1 09-25-2011 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Algy (Post 6133865)
if you dont mind me asking but how are you able to bump up your rev limiter on your 5at from 6750 to 7600 without any internal mods? I only ask this bc from your mod list you dont state anything about upgrading internals.. just air mods.

Osirus tune :D



Originally Posted by blaccG35 (Post 6133883)
nice #'s...was just looking in your garage and seen your 1/4 time 14.0 what were you putting down when you got that time?

296.5WHP :D


Originally Posted by bigc (Post 6133841)
congrats, but people are gonna give you crap for posting a dynapack number.

Who cares, If I had a kid that was as dumb as a rock ,and i knew he was a dummy,Lets just say that this dumb *** kid brought home a report card with all A's , As the parent of this dummy child,would i assume that the kid cheated,or would i question the grading curve, or maybe the teachers made a mistake!
Me personally I'd just be proud of my kid and wouldn't question anything:coolio:

oNAGAo 09-25-2011 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6133946)
Who cares, If I had a kid that was as dumb as a rock ,and i knew he was a dummy,Lets just say that this dumb *** kid brought home a report card with all A's , As the parent of this dummy child,would i assume that the kid cheated,or would i question the grading curve, or maybe the teachers made a mistake!
Me personally I'd just be proud of my kid and wouldn't question anything:coolio:

That's not exactly an equivalent scenario. If the point of this was that you "broke" the 300whp barrier... it loses much of its significance if you use a method that is known to inflate the numbers. That's just the engineer/lawyer in me, though. So if someone gives you crap, at least you'll understand they have a valid point.

And really, beyond showing before/after gains, final dyno numbers really don't matter that much. As long as you're happy with the performance, that's what really matters here - not a number.

JaE35 09-25-2011 12:12 PM

badass

03threefiftyz 09-25-2011 12:36 PM

Church dynopack...happiest dyno in the U.S.


Probably closer to 265-270whp on a dynojet.

Hotdawwgman 09-25-2011 12:39 PM

Either way, this car is quick... Makes very good power.... Congrats homie!

Texasscout 09-25-2011 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Algy (Post 6133865)
if you dont mind me asking but how are you able to bump up your rev limiter on your 5at from 6750 to 7600 without any internal mods? I only ask this bc from your mod list you dont state anything about upgrading internals.. just air mods.

I think what he's asking here is, why would you bump your rev limiter up so high on a valve train that not designed to handle it? Only the "Rev Up" motors were designed to run over 7k.

I mean, your Toruqe curve is already rolling off at 6K and your HP peak is about 6350, there's not much point in going past that.

Nice numbers anyway. I would love to get mine tuned too. At least get all I can get, like you have.

G35SedanGrn 09-25-2011 12:53 PM

lol I'm pretty sure I could get close to 300whp on churches dyno as well...

bigc 09-25-2011 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6133946)
...Who cares, If I had a kid that was as dumb as a rock ,and i knew he was a dummy,Lets just say that this dumb *** kid brought home a report card with all A's , As the parent of this dummy child,would i assume that the kid cheated,or would i question the grading curve, or maybe the teachers made a mistake!

Me personally I'd just be proud of my kid and wouldn't question anything:coolio:

I'm guessing you care, since the dyno number is the thread title.

Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 6134083)
Church dynopack...happiest dyno in the U.S.

Probably closer to 265-270whp on a dynojet.

^ This. Enjoy your car man, but you haven't really broken 300whp.

Algy 09-25-2011 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Texasscout (Post 6134098)
I think what he's asking here is, why would you bump your rev limiter up so high on a valve train that not designed to handle it? Only the "Rev Up" motors were designed to run over 7k.

I mean, your Toruqe curve is already rolling off at 6K and your HP peak is about 6350, there's not much point in going past that.

Nice numbers anyway. I would love to get mine tuned too. At least get all I can get, like you have.

That is what I'm trying to say but also that I'm trying to figure out how he's able to go above 6750rpm without dropping a valve or busting something?! I mean it's awesome that he has that much rev rpm. I want that too but when I got my tune on my 5at, the tuner was afraid of raising the rev limiter bc I "was" going to drop a valve or bust something bc I didn't have new valves or cams that would suppOrt the high rev...

Algy 09-25-2011 03:07 PM

Also from the looks of the chart, the rpm drops at 6900-7000 and ends there. I'm guessing and I could be wrong, but it seems like the tuner only bumped it up to 7k.. That sounds normal for a 5at but passed that it would detonating for the engine IMO. Unless you have new springs, valves, cams and all to support that high rpm.

butkiss1 09-25-2011 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Texasscout (Post 6134098)
I think what he's asking here is, why would you bump your rev limiter up so high on a valve train that not designed to handle it? Only the "Rev Up" motors were designed to run over 7k.

I mean, your Toruqe curve is already rolling off at 6K and your HP peak is about 6350, there's not much point in going past that.

Nice numbers anyway. I would love to get mine tuned too. At least get all I can get, like you have.

Shawn says that Infiniti bumps up the tach. It reads low. If its at 7200 the real engine rpm is more like 7000.

I never pull to 7600 .I shift at 7000

PAIXAO 09-25-2011 07:05 PM

What gear were you tuned in?

butkiss1 09-25-2011 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by PAIXAO (Post 6134656)
What gear were you tuned in?

5AT 3rd
6MT 4t

Algy 09-25-2011 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6134631)
Shawn says that Infiniti bumps up the tach. It reads low. If its at 7200 the real engine rpm is more like 7000.

I never pull to 7600 .I shift at 7000

That's awesome man! I wish my tuner would've let me bump it up pass 6800rpm bc with our newer year model.. Once we hit the limiter.. It's a fuel cutoff and it takes a while to get going again once you change the gears. That's what I hate about our year. With the 03-04 it's a limiter and you can bounce off of it as much as u want and there is no lag from hitting the limiter to shifting.. 06+ the computer stops throttle and once the gears are changed it will get back on to the gas. I want a higher rev so I don't make that mistake when I got passed the shifting point a little. I just want to make sure once I get anoter tune that it is ok for us to bump the rev limit a little higher without internals (valves,valve springs, cams etc.) without breaking something in the engine.

Algy 09-25-2011 07:58 PM

I'm not hatting at all. I think it's awesome you have a high rev. I think the autos have a crappy rev... 7500 sounds perfect, but it is pointless if we are losing power up there. It's just cool having it. I'm sure others can agree with what I'm trying to say. 302 whp is awesome too! That means if you were in a dynojet you be hitting around the 260-270s. That's where I'm at 265whp. Thumbs up man!!

Xet 09-25-2011 08:31 PM

Most definitely wayyyyy to high to be accurate, but congratulations none the less. We all know the feeling of dropping so much money (short of sc/t setup) and getting such small returns.

butkiss1 09-25-2011 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by SE5spd (Post 6134785)
well one thing that does not make sense to me, ive seen him run at the track and he ran and trapped better then your listed times (unless you have new PB that you did not update?) so thats why im asking.


His loss can be attributed to
1.Traction
2.Long shifts
3.Lack of respect for a 5AT:bowrofl:

bigc 09-25-2011 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6134667)
Big C thank u for the helpful information.
Let me explain to you what's important to me.
Today I posted 303.2 at the dyno day.
Boosted4life posted 316.4 (he's got a revup motor
I'm just a 5 AT Non revup) we ran em and .......
He got owned . Or should I say crushed. ........ .....
That's what matters to me Big C.....

bro, there's no hate here. i'm glad you're happy with your number, but a dynapack number is useless for comparison or bragging rights. if you want a number worth a thread, head over to hb speed or specialty z up in chatsworth for a few pulls on a dynojet.

again, enjoy your car :biggthumpup:

SE5spd 09-25-2011 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6134806)
His loss can be attributed to
1.Traction
2.Long shifts
3.Lack of respect for a 5AT:bowrofl:

how was he disrespecting autos?

butkiss1 09-25-2011 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by bigc (Post 6134815)
bro, there's no hate here. i'm glad you're happy with your number, but a dynapack number is useless for comparison or bragging rights. if you want a number worth a thread, head over to hb speed or specialty z up in chatsworth for a few pulls on a dynojet.

again, enjoy your car :biggthumpup:

Oh Big C no offence taken.
All good big homie

butkiss1 09-25-2011 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by SE5spd (Post 6134824)
how was he disrespecting autos?

It was a joke man.
But its just nice when the 5AT triumphs over a 6MT.

Jairen 09-25-2011 09:03 PM

Nice numbers man! Keep it going for more HP!

I will just say that I have hung with auto sedans who were way more modded than I am at the track.

chink-ah-saur 09-25-2011 09:06 PM

Bet yall wont foot race tho..lol

SE5spd 09-25-2011 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6134830)
It was a joke man.
But its just nice when the 5AT triumphs over a 6MT.

<--- this 6MT has never been beaten by a 5AT :icon11: lol

ryanm8 09-25-2011 09:22 PM

Dynapack or not, pretty impressive whp for the motor he has. Nice job

03threefiftyz 09-25-2011 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by butkiss1 (Post 6134672)
5AT 3rd
6MT 4t

5th is 1:1 in a 6mt.....

bigc 09-25-2011 09:49 PM

yeah, and 4th is 1:1 for 5AT.

SE5spd 09-25-2011 11:18 PM

can I run you too, I make less power then you :)

SDGenius 09-25-2011 11:43 PM

wow, a lot of haters on here

SDGenius 09-25-2011 11:46 PM

okay here are some facts, not open to dispute on variations...

- RevUps are more powerful than non

- 6MT have less drive-train loss than 5AT

- there's more to quickness than power

Good work Bill, still mad you didn't invite my car to come though

Jairen 09-26-2011 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by SDGenius (Post 6135152)
okay here are some facts, not open to dispute on variations...

- RevUps are more powerful than non

- 6MT have less drive-train loss than 5AT

- there's more to quickness than power

Good work Bill, still mad you didn't invite my car to come though

I thought that dispute was closed a while back concluding that a Non-REVUP AT will run the same numbers, if not more than a 6MT REVUP and that a Non-REVUP will make bigger TQ numbers than a REVUP? :dunno: There's a thread around about it somewhere.

Of course there is more to quickness than power. Take it from someone who has over 1k passes last year alone at the strip which probably more than most G owners will ever do. There is a lot more room for error with a manual. Launch to high = wheelspin, launch too low = bog, which the 6MT is very prone to. 6MT's are also VERY prone to wheelhop when shifting from 1st to 2nd. One drag race on the street does not mean total victory every single encounter. Auto's are just more consistent.

redpearl99 09-26-2011 12:09 AM

so if Mustag makes 210, Dyno Jet makes 260, and Dynapack makes 300 then can someone tell me which is accepted in the industry as the standard/real dyno

03threefiftyz 09-26-2011 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by SDGenius (Post 6135152)
okay here are some facts, not open to dispute on variations...

- RevUps are more powerful than non

- 6MT have less drive-train loss than 5AT

- there's more to quickness than power

Good work Bill, still mad you didn't invite my car to come though

Yet the non HR bolt-on 350z (with G35's) top 25 drag list is utterly dominated by 03-04's....

butkiss1 09-26-2011 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SE5spd (Post 6134785)
well one thing that does not make sense to me, ive seen him run at the track and he ran and trapped better then your listed times (unless you have new PB that you did not update?) so thats why im asking.

If he was in Nor Cal when he ran that why , SoCal NA G's barley get into 13's
Too hot


Originally Posted by *****-ah-saur (Post 6134853)
Bet yall wont foot race tho..lol

Yeah +1 those days are over:bowrofl:


Originally Posted by SE5spd (Post 6134861)
<--- this 6MT has never been beaten by a 5AT :icon11: lol

Not yet ........careful what you ask for!:coolio:


Originally Posted by SE5spd (Post 6135091)
can I run you too, I make less power then you :)

Looks like I'm the Ninja that people wanna fight now:11:
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=black...t:429,r:16,s:0



Originally Posted by SDGenius (Post 6135143)
wow, a lot of haters on here

^+1

Originally Posted by SDGenius (Post 6135152)
okay here are some facts, not open to dispute on variations...

- RevUps are more powerful than non

- 6MT have less drive-train loss than 5AT

- there's more to quickness than power

Good work Bill, still mad you didn't invite my car to come though

You were with your family man ........Idea lets do it in SD, I'll drive down and me you & Lil Maxie can go get lunch , Drop Maxie off for a nappy poo, and we can go and do the the :driving::drivingskid:


BTW my numbers today at the Dyno day were higher than yesterday
303.2HP
272.7TQ

SDGenius 09-26-2011 12:19 AM

Jairen, the point i was making is that it was a guy w/a built 6MT RevUp vs. a 5AT non. Mike had every advantage POWER wise, but Bill still came up w/the win. that's nothing to discredit. everyone on here's pouting about Church's dyno but there was a dude w/an 03.5 6MT that pulled like 236 near stock, so if it was an AT it would've pulled slightly less. Bill still has something like 60hp over stock, also not to be discredited.

butkiss1 09-26-2011 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by Jairen (Post 6135187)
I thought that dispute was closed a while back concluding that a Non-REVUP AT will run the same numbers, if not more than a 6MT REVUP and that a Non-REVUP will make bigger TQ numbers than a REVUP? :dunno: There's a thread around about it somewhere.

Of course there is more to quickness than power. Take it from someone who has over 1k passes last year alone at the strip which probably more than most G owners will ever do. There is a lot more room for error with a manual. Launch to high = wheelspin, launch too low = bog, which the 6MT is very prone to. 6MT's are also VERY prone to wheelhop when shifting from 1st to 2nd. One drag race on the street does not mean total victory every single encounter. Auto's are just more consistent.

It was 4 drag races .
I gave that Revup 4 different opportunity's to do something ....
If you lose 4 times thats saying something

butkiss1 09-26-2011 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by SDGenius (Post 6135229)
Jairen, the point i was making is that it was a guy w/a built 6MT RevUp vs. a 5AT non. Mike had every advantage POWER wise, but Bill still came up w/the win. that's nothing to discredit. everyone on here's pouting about Church's dyno but there was a dude w/an 03.5 6MT that pulled like 236 near stock, so if it was an AT it would've pulled slightly less. Bill still has something like 60hp over stock, also not to be discredited.

:crying:

Jairen 09-26-2011 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by SDGenius (Post 6135229)
Jairen, the point i was making is that it was a guy w/a built 6MT RevUp vs. a 5AT non. Mike had every advantage POWER wise, but Bill still came up w/the win. that's nothing to discredit. everyone on here's pouting about Church's dyno but there was a dude w/an 03.5 6MT that pulled like 236 near stock, so if it was an AT it would've pulled slightly less. Bill still has something like 60hp over stock, also not to be discredited.

:biggthumpup:

Of course man! I've beaten a lot of cars at the track that I know could easily walk me and have also lost to cars that I shouldn't have. A win is a win. Some are in my videos.

BTW, hit me up when I get back. I got new photo and video gear that I would like to use to video you and the ride.

herrschaft 09-26-2011 12:36 AM

Good numbers for a 5AT.

Originally Posted by SE5spd (Post 6134861)
<--- this 6MT has never been beaten by a 5AT :icon11: lol

Wanna race.....:D

butkiss1 09-26-2011 12:40 AM


Originally Posted by herrschaft (Post 6135250)
Good numbers for a 5AT.
Wanna race.....:D

No thank u sir !
But thank u for asking sir !
Your G would beat me so bad ...I'd be scarred for life:bowdown:

herrschaft 09-26-2011 12:45 AM

^That comment was for SE5spd :icon17:

SDGenius 09-26-2011 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by Jairen (Post 6135243)
:biggthumpup:

Of course man! I've beaten a lot of cars at the track that I know could easily walk me and have also lost to cars that I shouldn't have. A win is a win. Some are in my videos.

BTW, hit me up when I get back. I got new photo and video gear that I would like to use to video you and the ride.

for sure man, looking forward to it.

OCG35 09-26-2011 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by Jairen (Post 6134844)
Nice numbers man! Keep it going for more HP!

I will just say that I have hung with auto sedans who were way more modded than I am at the track.

but it was an AT DE non RevUp sedan - you know, the slow ones ;)

Still havent lost to a revup - or an HR for that matter (or a coupe or an MT) :D

Unfortunately there are so many versions of the G - it's almost impossible to bother comparing them.

non-reveup to non-revup, rev-up to rev-up, HR to HR all makes sense (even if AT to MT or coupe to sedan)... but when a RevUp gets beat by a non revup or and HR gets beat by a RevUp - there's no glory in saying "I hang with more modified AT (or sedan)...

Just sayin' bro. :)


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