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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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new wheels/tires without tire pressure monitor?

What happens if you run a new/winter set of wheels and tires without the tire pressure monitor?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Not a problem, I have done that with my last two Gs. The little dash light will stay on, but after a couple times driving you don't even notice. Lots of people run them this way.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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^^ Wayne, the tire shop that installed my winter tires told me that if a car is equipped with a TPMS system and you don't have the sensors in the rims insurance will not cover you in the event of a crash. He actually told me not to buy a second set of rims. Any thoughts? (Sorry for the repeat question, when I asked this a few months ago I never got a clear answer.)
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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^^ Wayne, the tire shop that installed my winter tires told me that if a car is equipped with a TPMS system and you don't have the sensors in the rims insurance will not cover you in the event of a crash. He actually told me not to buy a second set of rims. Any thoughts? (Sorry for the repeat question, when I asked this a few months ago I never got a clear answer.)
I really find that hard to believe Christian. A lot of people are in for a shock if that was the case.
I have just sent Matt (Dubbletrubble) a PM to ask him his take on this since he is in the Insurance business.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Thanks Wayne, let me know what Matt tells you.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Thanks Wayne, let me know what Matt tells you.
I would imagine he will answer here, but if he doesn't I will get back to you.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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"the fact that that it is unethical to allow a discussion about disabling a safety feature and that the staff does not want members to believe that the site or its owner promotes unsafe driving practices"

Come on people, let's play fair. This is going to be mandated by the government, certainly we can't speak of this if we can't speak of the other 'subject' that has no mandate from the government.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Give it up Planar. We are not opening the video hack subject for discussion. Where I live winter tires are more of a safety feature than TPMS sensors, and I will not be applying any hack to disable to feature in the car. I can check the air pressure manually and the TPMS malfunctions all winter due to changes in the weather anyway.
 

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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I doubt that you'll be in trouble with insurance if that's the case, especially if they can't prove that the tires were underinflated prior to the accident. The best way to find out to be extra sure is to call your insurance company (in case different companies have different policies).

Some questions:

1. My Infiniti dealership puts snow tires on and can store my tires during the winter. So, if they or a professional shop is going to replace the tires, why is it a big deal to just replace the tires and use the original rims? Is it just simpler and less chance of damaging the rims?

2. For those who got a second set of rims, did you just purchase the same stock rims, or did you get something different? If different, why?

3. Is it a big deal to put TPMS sensors on new rims? I asked this before last winter, but don't recall a definitive answer - how much does it cost to get new TPMS?

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EDIT: Ideally, I'd prefer TPMS in both my winter and summer tires/rims. For me, if I only had one set of TPMS sensors, I think I'd prefer to have them with the winter tires/rims. During the winter, it gets really cold where I am (upstate NY), and I'm actually less likely to check my tires during the winter as compared to the summer. Plus, on some days when it gets REALLY cold, tire pressure will drop a bit more than on less cold days...
 

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by randman
I doubt that you'll be in trouble with insurance if that's the case, especially if they can't prove that the tires were underinflated prior to the accident. The best way to find out to be extra sure is to call your insurance company (in case different companies have different policies).

Some questions:

1. My Infiniti dealership puts snow tires on and can store my tires during the winter. So, if they or a professional shop is going to replace the tires, why is it a big deal to just replace the tires and use the original rims? Is it just simpler and less chance of damaging the rims?

2. For those who got a second set of rims, did you just purchase the same stock rims, or did you get something different? If different, why?

3. Is it a big deal to put TPMS sensors on new rims? I asked this before last winter, but don't recall a definitive answer - how much does it cost to get new TPMS?

Thanks!
Answer to 3)

Yery easy to move TPMS from one wheel to another if the tire is being dismounted. Unscrew from one wheel and move to the other. Even easier still if you had 2 sets of TPMS, but they are not cheap. Then, in the winter, switch out wheels and tires and have the dealer re-mate the TMPS to the car.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by randman
I doubt that you'll be in trouble with insurance if that's the case. Best way to find out to be suer is to call your insurance company.

Some questions:

1. My Infiniti dealership puts snow tires on and can store my tires during the winter. So, if they or a professional shop is going to replace the tires, why is it a big deal to just replace the tires and use the original rims? Is it just simpler and less chance of damaging the rims?

2. For those who got a second set of rims, did you just purchase the same stock rims, or did you get something different? If different, why?

3. Is it a big deal to put TPMS sensors on new rims? I asked this before last winter, but don't recall a definitive answer - how much does it cost to get new TPMS?

Thanks!
Good questions.
1.You answered this one yourself.
2 Most people purchased different rims because of the looks, performance and many aftermarket rims can be purchased cheaper than OEM rims, the cars look better with upsizing.
3. Many aftermarket rims will not accept the TPMS sensors or they have to be fastened inside the rim with a strap. Extra sensors are also expensive. I have heard new sensors are over $100 each. Then if you have a set of sensors in each set of wheels you have to get them reset with the car each time you change to your other rims in the Spring and Fall. The Dealer charges you for this service each time.

I run my sensors in my stock rims for winter.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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If possible, get the wheel drilled for TPMS on the inside ... IMO, much easier and more secure than straps.

 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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I've never discussed hack, it's the desire for open dialog to voice our level of frustration.

As far as TPMS is concerned, from what I understand be prepared to spend a 'Consult' fee with every wheel change if you have two sets of rims equipped with sensors. I'll be if you tell me I'm wrong
 

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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If possible, get the wheel drilled for TPMS on the inside ... IMO, much easier and more secure than straps.
For sure Terry if it's possible to machine it, then that is the way to go if you are installing the sensors. But then again, that is more dollars.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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I've never discussed hack, it's the desire for open dialog to voice our level of frustration.
If you haven't seen what the administrators have to say about this topic please see below:

Originally Posted by Msedanman
ChristianN has reflected exactly how we at G35Driver feel about this modification.
We don't like it, haven't allowed it, and won't allow any discussion of it...period.............and we don't need any arguments or silly comments about it either........
Get with the program.....It's the way it is..

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