I know of the Procede, but haven't heard of Juice Box.

Anyway, maybe I'm misreading your post (and please correct me if I'm wrong), but from what I gathered, you stated the following :

1) The BMW 335 will STILL put more HP down in its STOCK FORM, even after you add this twin turbo charger kit to your G35, and
2) [it] doesn't seem that great when, after spending thousands to upgrade, you're still even or slower than a stock 335.


Everyone knows a stock 335i is faster and more powerful and a stock G35, but I think you are saying that even AFTER you add a TT kit to G35, a stock 335i will still be even or not faster and will put down more power than a TT G35.

Also, aren't you the one in the other thread who actually thought the G35 ACTUALLY has 6 more hp than the 335i just because that's what the advertisements and papers say? In the other thread you say a stock G35 has more hp than a 335i, and now in this thread you say a 335i will put down more power than a TT G35. Gotta make up your mind man.

EDIT: AHH, I get it now!! Re the above hyperlinked thread, you were ACTUALLY thinking the G37 made ~270whp with a TT kit. You are wrong. That was a STOCK G37 dyno. That company wanted to dyno their stock G37 before they tore it apart to engineer a TT kit. OMG, tagheuer, you shoud stick to timepiece discussions. HAHAHAHA

 

go away troll...that dyno was a BASELINE before the twins

Oh, and Juice Box will make the 335 go boom. It's the cheap version of Vishnu and their tunes are not as researched and developed. They're made for the poor fool that pays for his base 335 with his entire paycheck.

 

Why would anyone want a 335i? Unless you dump it before your warranty runs out. Otherwise it'll nickel and dime you to death as all BMW's do. They aren't reliable vehicles. Yahoo just posted a nice article on the most expensive cars to own. It had nothing to do with the actual cost of the vehicle, but focused on the actual cost of ownership over a 5 year period. BMW and Mercedes took almost ever spot on the list. Japanese all the way baby!

 

That's a pretty useless statement. Your assuming someone actually want a 335. I wouldn't trade my G for a bland characterless 335. They look too much like a Toyota, especially from the back. The G is a way sexier car. And more reliable.

 

I say, take them both to the track for a test. As I will be running a G35S AT against the G37 this Friday at Capital Raceway in MD. Will post the video shortly thereafter.

P.S. Isn't this forum G35Driver.com and not EuroTrash.com?

 

haha, yeah, it's not like bmw's are crap, they sell more than g sedan and coupe combined,
but i'd never own one out of warranty, lol

 

Ok, so I now realize those dyno charts were stock.

Fair enough, my mistake. I thought they were after the turbos were installed, which I wasn't impressed with.

But I think it is pretty funny how everyone here bashes BMWs and calls them junk, and everyone on the BMW forum bashes Infinitis and calls them junk.

According to most recent surveys, Infiniti is really middle of the pack in reliability. I have had super reliable BMWs, and not so reliable Nissan/Infinitis.

One thing is for sure, the newer generation 3 series is much more reliable than it used to be...

I wish Infiniti would have included turbos from the factory...now we have to pay thousands and risk voiding our warranty to beat the 335.

oh well. sorry to derail the thread, when are these TT going to be available?

 

Just wondering...since you thought the G37 dynoed 270hp with TT, what did you think the G37/G35 would dyno without it?? hahaha

 

Thats where you are 100% wrong. I have never actually seen a thread here where more than one person says BMW sucks, is crap, etc. I see tons of threads here with people saying they love the 335i, and would want one if it were possible. I have seen tons of G35 drivers leave to go to a BMW.

Now, I have seen TONS of threads on Bimmer forums where all they do is talk complete **** about whatever car the thread is about, be it a Nissan/Infiniti, Toyota/Lexus, or pretty much any Japanese car for that matter. I'm sure they do it with other German manufacturers too. They think they're all high and mighty and just talk **** about anything that is not a BMW, thats quite sad in my opinion.

Just make sure you don't think everyone here thinks BMW's are crap, I sure don't, but I wouldn't want one unless it were an M5/M6 considering what I have with my G35.

 

I'm with you. I don't think they are crap. I love the exterior styling and who could ever complain about it's performance. I do not like the interior of the E92's. I have a good friend that has a 335i couple and all he does is look down at just about any other car that "competes" against the venerable BMW name. BMW does have a long history of expensive maintenance and up keep. They try to make everyone forget about it and charge a premium on the car and throw in a 4 year warranty. The G offers a better bang for the buck and the company has a better repair history. It's not perfect and the G isn't for everyone. I say to anyone, buy what you want. You earned the money and you deserve to be happy with your purchase. I know people that are happy with their Chevy Aveo's and they can afford the 335i. It's all in what makes you happy and that is all that matters.

 

The people that think BMW's a good, obviously don't work on their own cars. they're a PITA to work on and everything is overpriced. They engineer the cr@p outta their car parts, but then source them from the cheapest bidder.

I've worked on some Bimmers in the past, and I really don't like them. Especially in hotter climates, they tend to fall apart and self destruct.
I love the M cars, and the Z8, but all the other stuff....Not so much.

I can't wait to see some #'s on the TT kit, I've always felt that the G35 Would be just about perfect with another +100WHP.

 

Have you ever tried to change the spark plugs in a VQ? Not for the faint hearted.

 

As a former owner of an '98 M3 and presently owning an '07 G35X, I'd say I'm qualified to talk about both car's reliability.

I love my G which I got in July, but it's been back to the dealer no less than 4 times for quality problems, and in the 3 months I've had it I only have 2000 miles on it. So far, that's totally unacceptable.

God I miss my M...but it was near useless here in Colorado even with snow tires. It did not "nickel and dime" me to death, and it was a very reliable car. As I recall, the only problem I had was the notorious glovebox door coming loose, which had nothing to do with the driving experience of the car.

For everyone using the term "BMW" to sum up the entire brand name as unreliable, you've probably never even owned one. For a more intelligent conversation, it's probably better to stick to particular models in the series rather than refer to the entire brand.

As for me, I got my G in July of this year and my good friend got himself a shiny new 335 sedan. The jury is out for both of us as we settle in to our new rides. But I will say this as an early observation of the logbooks: since getting his car he has not experienced a SINGLE issue, while I have been back to Infiniti of Denver 4 times:

1. Sunroof liner literally fell out the first time I used it.
2. Seat warmers didn't work, and I had a rattling sound coming from underneath the car when cornering.
3. Keys recall.
4. Wind noise coming from driver's window at apeeds above 40 mph.


And now a new problem: my tire pressure warning indicator is lit, even though all 4 tires are perfectly inflated and there is no nail, etc. Dealer says yet another visit will be required to "re-program" the sensors...

Would I say all Infinitis are unreliable or will eventually nickle and dime their owners to death based on this initial experience? Of course not; I'm not that narrow minded.

So please - try and refrain from making general comments about BMW, or any other brand for that matter, especially if you've never owned one.

We'll see how the years and miles will treat my G...

 

same thign happened to me and i went around looking for a nail and checked the prressure. if your dealer was like mine, they woulda have set the tire serivce reminder to "rotate" the tires (tho i dont knwo why my dealer did this as i have a g35s where i can NOT rotate tires). check that before you waste time at the dealer again.

if you dont count the m3's glove box coming loose then you shouldnt count the G's sunroof liner falling down. BUT i do think that all cars have a few defects whether it be infiniti, bmw, toyota or whatever. sometimes certain cars (not just models) just dont sit well.

 

Well, the only difference is that the glovebox on the Bimmer took nearly 3 years to become loose, while the Infiniti sunroof liner took approximately 2 hours!

Thanks for the tip on the tire rotation, - interestingly enough I took two adult passengers for a trip on Friday and they each weighed about 200 lbs...I weigh about 170 and after a couple of minutes the tire pressure warning light went off and hasn't come back!