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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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Need Help w/ Springs-Badly.

My Volk's will be here on Friday (earlier than expected) and I still haven't figured out what suspension I am going with...

I have read just about everything in here about them, I understand the pros and the cons etc of each set up... but I don't have awesome contacts like some of you.

Would you mind listing what set up you used, how much you paid, and where you got them?

Such as:
Tein CS $1500 from www.smoothride.com

Thanks in advance.

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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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Re: Need Help w/ Springs-Badly.

Well if you know the pros and cons, what setup do you want?

I'm going to go with coupe Jics fla-2's for $1750 shipped (I'd get the 350Z jics, but I don't want to go that stiff, which rules out the newer Tein flex system as well for me). But I've got pretty every know coilover system booked marked with the lowest price I've found for said coilover. (I'm not talking about the rare stuff like ohlins, but the mainstream stuff). So which setup are you thinking about?

6mt sed
Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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Re: Need Help w/ Springs-Badly.

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are those the JIC's with the progressive spring?

BS G35C 6spd navi/aero/prem
 
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 12:37 AM
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Re: Need Help w/ Springs-Badly.

Ya know, I called Jic about a month ago and I could have swarn that the tech said that the coupe Jics were not progressive. I'm not willing to make any compromise on performance to run progressive, so I'll pin that down before I order. If they are, I'll have to find out it I can order them shipped with linear instead. Plan b for me would be to see if and Tein dealers still have any of the older FLEX coilovers laying around with the older, milder 10kg/10kg spring rates laying around. If you order them now, they come with 12kg spring rates, to stiff for me.

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Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
Nismo header (soon)
True dual (soon)

 
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Re: Need Help w/ Springs-Badly.

I called JIC a whlie back and they actually had a local vendor talk to me. some how they drilled into my head that progressive was the way to go and they were releasing a progressive setup. I thought that would be very nice for a performance street setup.

After speaking to another source. I think I will go with linear and Cusco. I never cared for KYB, but I guess I'll give Cusco a try. They are dual height adjustable and life time waranteed. JIC's I heard have a tendency to blow and the shocks are not revalved for the progressive springs. They used the same linear shock setup and just switched out the spring to progressive. Not sure if that matters, but just passing info on.


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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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I called JIC a whlie back and they actually had a local vendor talk to me. some how they drilled into my head that progressive was the way to go and they were releasing a progressive setup. I thought that would be very nice for a performance street setup.

After speaking to another source. I think I will go with linear and Cusco. I never cared for KYB, but I guess I'll give Cusco a try. They are dual height adjustable and life time waranteed.
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Cusco's use faulty spring rate methodology. They use spring rates that are 63% stiffer in the front and actually a few points softer in the rear. That is how one purposely increases a car ability to understeer or push. Why anyone would want that for thier car is beyond me. They are said to ride and drive very nice. But their's no escaping the laws of physics and how their spring rates will make for a car that is far less enjoyable to drive swiftly. What they did is what you get when you don't spend the kind of R&D money that should have been spend. They won't sell to those that actually want to enhance their cars performance.

I think Cusco is a good company, so I'll hold that their engineering on their coilovers for the Z/G is a momentary lapse on their part.

Jics are the number one choice of 350Z owners that track their car in varios forms of competition. With all those guys pounding their cars to compeate, not a singe person has complained on durability. But I'll do a search on the net to see what come's up.

Given the right mix of end user's running the wrong spring rates, or lowering to low. ANY coilover/strut can fail. What needs to be seperated is if its a design fault or if people that go with that product are more likely to make some wrong choices on their own, outside of the factorys setups. KYB AGX's are good struts, but lots people don't heed KYB's advice to not run them with coilovers stiffer than 450lbs, resulting in blown sturts and sometimes, poor overall performance. Plus lots of KYB GR-2's get run in lowered applications, that too results in blown struts, since GR-2's are oem valved. All that results in a bad rep for KYB, when it's not their fault.

6mt sed
Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
Nismo header (soon)
True dual (soon)

 
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