Why Do My Tires Rub?
Re: Why Do My Tires Rub?
You have introduced a combination of four things that--when added together--are causing the problem:
(1) Your wheel/tire combination is 1/2 inch taller than stock
(2) Your tires are 30 mm wider than stock
(3) Your rim offset is 7mm less than stock
(4) Your car is over 1 inch lower than stock
If any one of these changes had been removed from the system, you would probably not be rubbing.
--Steve
(1) Your wheel/tire combination is 1/2 inch taller than stock
(2) Your tires are 30 mm wider than stock
(3) Your rim offset is 7mm less than stock
(4) Your car is over 1 inch lower than stock
If any one of these changes had been removed from the system, you would probably not be rubbing.
--Steve
Re: Why Do My Tires Rub?
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That's not even 1 centimeter. Less than 1/4"? I can't believe that would stop the rubbing problem at all.
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Ya better start believe it.
Remember, the wheels do not travel straight up and down under load, but follow a curved path rather. 7mm is very significant in suspension talk. One way to be certain is to have someone bounce on you car to simulate bound/rebound, while you observe the tires. This is tricky when dealing w. the front-end, however, since there's not an ideal place like the trunk for someone to bounce on. May be try it from the door sills w. the doors open? I'm almost certain you're rubbing on the outside edge of the tires.
THX723
That's not even 1 centimeter. Less than 1/4"? I can't believe that would stop the rubbing problem at all.
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Ya better start believe it.
Remember, the wheels do not travel straight up and down under load, but follow a curved path rather. 7mm is very significant in suspension talk. One way to be certain is to have someone bounce on you car to simulate bound/rebound, while you observe the tires. This is tricky when dealing w. the front-end, however, since there's not an ideal place like the trunk for someone to bounce on. May be try it from the door sills w. the doors open? I'm almost certain you're rubbing on the outside edge of the tires.
THX723
Re: Why Do My Tires Rub?
Things you should know.
1. 7mm can definately cause/cure rubbing. Depending on the design/construction of the rim, a machine shop can give you a few more mm of offset.
2. Depending on the manufacturer of the tires, they can be narrower/wider than another. The same "size" tires from different manufacturers are actually different sizes. When you end up getting new tires, you can probably find one from a different company that is a little narrower.
3. Unfortunately, the majority of retailers selling less expensive brands and the 20" + wheels don't seem to care much about fitment. Choose your wheel AND retailer carefully.
http://www.wheelspecs.com
1. 7mm can definately cause/cure rubbing. Depending on the design/construction of the rim, a machine shop can give you a few more mm of offset.
2. Depending on the manufacturer of the tires, they can be narrower/wider than another. The same "size" tires from different manufacturers are actually different sizes. When you end up getting new tires, you can probably find one from a different company that is a little narrower.
3. Unfortunately, the majority of retailers selling less expensive brands and the 20" + wheels don't seem to care much about fitment. Choose your wheel AND retailer carefully.
http://www.wheelspecs.com
Re: Why Do My Tires Rub?
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(1) Your wheel/tire combination is 1/2 inch taller than stock
(2) Your tires are 30 mm wider than stock
(3) Your rim offset is 7mm less than stock
(4) Your car is over 1 inch lower than stock
If any one of these changes had been removed from the system, you would probably not be rubbing.
<hr></blockquote>All true. I have the same wheels,(same offset) and same tires in the same size, but my car isn't lowered. Hell, the tire height is already .5in taller that stock, so there's no "wheel well gap" to fill up if you leave your springs stock. That's why you rub. With the wheels so wide, you can't use spacers because they'd either stick out fender or rub on it. I'd say either live with it, or maybe try to cut out the part of your fender liner that rubs and maybe build a cut-out. You know, like a "bubble" to give yourself more clearance but still protect everything above the liner. Hey, I've got a better suggestion..... PUT YOUR STOCK SPRINGS BACK ON![img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Ivory Pearl/Premium/Xenon/
(1) Your wheel/tire combination is 1/2 inch taller than stock
(2) Your tires are 30 mm wider than stock
(3) Your rim offset is 7mm less than stock
(4) Your car is over 1 inch lower than stock
If any one of these changes had been removed from the system, you would probably not be rubbing.
<hr></blockquote>All true. I have the same wheels,(same offset) and same tires in the same size, but my car isn't lowered. Hell, the tire height is already .5in taller that stock, so there's no "wheel well gap" to fill up if you leave your springs stock. That's why you rub. With the wheels so wide, you can't use spacers because they'd either stick out fender or rub on it. I'd say either live with it, or maybe try to cut out the part of your fender liner that rubs and maybe build a cut-out. You know, like a "bubble" to give yourself more clearance but still protect everything above the liner. Hey, I've got a better suggestion..... PUT YOUR STOCK SPRINGS BACK ON![img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Ivory Pearl/Premium/Xenon/
Re: Why Do My Tires Rub?
My stock springs went in the garbage a while back, but the car looked like a 4x4 with the stock springs.
It sits nicely with the eibachs. Well the rubbing is a great excuse not to let anyone else drive the car and to not pile people in the car as well.
The main problem is that I can't really figure out where it rubs without possbily damaging the car. Like you said, I think it is only on the plastic liner anyhow.
It sits nicely with the eibachs. Well the rubbing is a great excuse not to let anyone else drive the car and to not pile people in the car as well.
The main problem is that I can't really figure out where it rubs without possbily damaging the car. Like you said, I think it is only on the plastic liner anyhow.
Re: Why Do My Tires Rub?
You'd probably have to take the front wheels off and really get in there to see where the contact takes place. If it's not that bad, "modifying" that liner might be your best bet. Let us know how it turns out!
Ivory Pearl/Premium/Xenon/
Ivory Pearl/Premium/Xenon/
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That's what I was thinking about. Any ideas on how to go about a project like that ? It is pretty minor like I mentioned. I have to hit driveways sideways and slowly, but I'm positive it is just hitting plastic. The tires aren't chopped up or anything like that.
Re: Why Do My Tires Rub?
I'd start by getting the wheels off. It's hard to say what to do next since the problem is still unknown. I suppose if you didn't do anything at all the tires would just wear a hole in the fender liner, and you probably don't want that...
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Re: Why Do My Tires Rub?
Well today I figured out at least one spot where they rub. I have the factory bra and it has a type of screw that replaces the original one in the fender and the bra snaps onto it. When I came into a parking lot, the tire rubbed on that. I'm sure if it wasn't there it was rub elsewhere, but it is the first place that the tire can contact.
If I buy different offset rims would this cure the problem? I'm thinking that would be better even though it costs more.
I cant't believe what a bunch of idiots Wheelmax has working for them. I did tell those sheisters I had a lowered vehicle as well.
If I buy different offset rims would this cure the problem? I'm thinking that would be better even though it costs more.
I cant't believe what a bunch of idiots Wheelmax has working for them. I did tell those sheisters I had a lowered vehicle as well.
To lower the offset, you can take it either to a machine shop or a very good wheel shop and they'll shave the inside hub to lower the offset. Also next time around you may want to look into the Falken St115's as tires... these tend to run alilttle narrower then other brands and should help with rubbing issues. If you have any questions feel free to give us a ring.
James
James
You know all the **** info that was in this thread and the real reason it was happening.
The guy had blown struts... he was rubbing in a straight line. Am I just the smartest person in the world or is everyone that use to give advice just an idiot?
Livefast: Are they aftermarket wheels?
The guy had blown struts... he was rubbing in a straight line. Am I just the smartest person in the world or is everyone that use to give advice just an idiot?
Livefast: Are they aftermarket wheels?
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