Pilot Sports in the cold
Pilot Sports in the cold
The problems of our Pilot Sport tires on snow and ice are well documented but what about just plain cold? Right now on the east coast it's about 10 degrees F, and since I bought my coupe only last June I've never driven it in these kinds of temps. I blew off an early morning drive today because it was only 1 degree outside here in NYC. I know I should get winter tires, but my G is almost exclusively a weekend getaway car, so my driving is mostly discretionary.
I'd be curious what kind of performance people are getting on extremely cold Pilots. Are they safe for normal driving? Are they initially crazy but ok after driving a few miles? Thanks for anything you can report on this.
I'd be curious what kind of performance people are getting on extremely cold Pilots. Are they safe for normal driving? Are they initially crazy but ok after driving a few miles? Thanks for anything you can report on this.
Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
as long as your careful there fine in the cold IMO, i'm in St. Louis and as it's not 10 out it gets pretty cold. I haven't had any problems, They tend to break loose a little easier than normal but it's nothing out of control
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Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
My Pilot Sports do well when it's cold here in California, but then cold here is only like 45-50 degrees. [img]/w3timages/icons/wink.gif[/img]
Dr. Jim
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2003 DesertPlatinum/Graphite G35C 6MT
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Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
Here in Canada, My pilots were great in summer temps. But I noticed as the temp dropped down to freezing or below the tires were hard and non flexible, and tended to slip rather than flex and grab. Of course I couldn't see this but it was what imagined was happening.
Seems these pilots are great for warm climes but not good in the cold.
Last Janurary 7th. when I picked up the car, I drove home in snow flurries. The car slipped easily and the VDC / ABS was on almost constantly despite my being very careful.
These 2 situations have caused me to be very careful with my Pilots and I strongly recommend not using them in any conditions other than summer.
After what I've seen with poor winter grip on dry roads, and poor grip on snow and ice, I would not recommend anyone drive on them in winter months at all. Just too chancy. [img]/w3timages/icons/frown.gif[/img]
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Seems these pilots are great for warm climes but not good in the cold.
Last Janurary 7th. when I picked up the car, I drove home in snow flurries. The car slipped easily and the VDC / ABS was on almost constantly despite my being very careful.
These 2 situations have caused me to be very careful with my Pilots and I strongly recommend not using them in any conditions other than summer.
After what I've seen with poor winter grip on dry roads, and poor grip on snow and ice, I would not recommend anyone drive on them in winter months at all. Just too chancy. [img]/w3timages/icons/frown.gif[/img]
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Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
My buddy has a VW Golf with the 1.8T. He has the Yokohama AVS ES100 on his car for the summer. Even though it's FWD, he found the tires almost useless with even 1/2" snow on the ground! I guess such is the nature of summer performance tires!
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Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
Coincidentally, my winter tires are 'Yokohama AVS Winter'.
These, of course, work great in the winter on ice and snow, but not so good on dry pavement.
It's to be expected I suppose with dedicated tires.
C.
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These, of course, work great in the winter on ice and snow, but not so good on dry pavement.
It's to be expected I suppose with dedicated tires.
C.
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Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
This is a copy-paste from my response to the same post over at FA.
I went on a long drive today from CT to Riverhead LI (180 miles total). When I first got out of the garage I spun the tires cause they were cold. But once I got on the highway, and after 15 minutes of driving at 75 Mph, I didn't notice any traction problems. Also (and this is a questions), don't you guys think, that even though it's cold outside, once you're on the highway for lets say more than 15 minutes, wouldn't the tires warm up to a normal temperature anyways?
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I went on a long drive today from CT to Riverhead LI (180 miles total). When I first got out of the garage I spun the tires cause they were cold. But once I got on the highway, and after 15 minutes of driving at 75 Mph, I didn't notice any traction problems. Also (and this is a questions), don't you guys think, that even though it's cold outside, once you're on the highway for lets say more than 15 minutes, wouldn't the tires warm up to a normal temperature anyways?
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Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
I refused to get snow tires for my G35C for the winter (living here in Northern NJ), because I did not want to take a hit on dry-road performance. Instead, I realized that I have taken a hit anyways. I can no longer punch it in 1st gear as the tires just spin viciously after 3,000-4,000rpm (where the real torque builds up), and I can't take the turns nearly as hard as I could during the summer. When driving twisty roads, the poor cold-weather traction from the Pilot Sports makes it seem like I am driving a lesser vehicle. The reason is that especially in this 5 to 10 degree weather we've been having lately, the tires simply just don't warm up to their proper temperatures. So now I am annoyed because I am thinking if I had gotten Blizzak LM-22's or Wintersport M3's, that are supposedly great-handling snow tires, they would have done a better job on dry roads than the Pilot Sports in this terribly cold weather. Doh !!
MrElussive
03 G35C 6MT
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Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
After the early season blizzard in NY - I realized the pilots were useless in the snow. I bought a set of 17" Blizzaks mounted on ASA rims from tire rack. The ride is deinately comprimised a bit from the 18" pilots but at least I can enjoy the car in the winter months. Only 3 months to go unitl the "summer tires" go back on
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Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
Mr.Elussive,
Keep in mind that the roads in our area seem to always have winter salt and fine grit on them, even on a nice, clear day.
I blame the road condition more than the temps for the lack of traction during winter months.
Keep in mind that the roads in our area seem to always have winter salt and fine grit on them, even on a nice, clear day.
I blame the road condition more than the temps for the lack of traction during winter months.
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Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
The Pilot Sports are a "summer tire," so they are designed more for dry grip than anything else. I can't say much about snow, since we can go years from seeing it here; but I have driven in colder weather. We had a couple really cold days down in the 20 and grips seems fine, even starting out with the car completely cold. I can't say for colder temperatures though.
Just to make you northereners feel bad, it was 77 last weekend and it is supposed to be in the low 60's tomorrow. [img]/w3timages/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Just to make you northereners feel bad, it was 77 last weekend and it is supposed to be in the low 60's tomorrow. [img]/w3timages/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Re: Pilot Sports in the cold
"I am thinking if I had gotten Blizzak LM-22's or Wintersport M3's, that are supposedly great-handling snow tires, they would have done a better job on dry roads than the Pilot Sports in this terribly cold weather."
The Blizzak LM-22s are actually really good on dry roads! Only problem is that they wear out quite fast, so don't leave them on when the temp goes up!
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The Blizzak LM-22s are actually really good on dry roads! Only problem is that they wear out quite fast, so don't leave them on when the temp goes up!
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Pilots work ok in cold weather like here in miami it is in the 50's, and a little while back it got down to the high 30's at night.
If you drive like a reserved driver, you'll have no problem. But if you take corners fast, or are generally more spirited you'll easily notice the difference from a hot temp day to this cold temp day. They are harder, less sticky, and seem not to grab the road much at all... thus straight easy driving is fine, but anything else becomes a slight problem...
You gotta be careful, it is much easier to fishtail.
-Eric
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If you drive like a reserved driver, you'll have no problem. But if you take corners fast, or are generally more spirited you'll easily notice the difference from a hot temp day to this cold temp day. They are harder, less sticky, and seem not to grab the road much at all... thus straight easy driving is fine, but anything else becomes a slight problem...
You gotta be careful, it is much easier to fishtail.
-Eric
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I too live in N.J. (southern part), and I can tell you the pilots are not for the snow!!!!!! the big snow we had in early December here in the Northeast definitely proved that to me....but I do drive up to paramus area 5 days a week...so far even in this frigid temperature we are having I do not feel any major difference in the dry performance of these tires. It takes me two minutes and I'm on the Garden State Parkway so I usually go from 25mph to 80mph in no time...I think once I start adding up the miles on the tires however it will be another story...time will tell....
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I was driving uphill the other day and I came across some ice. On this ice(just a sheet of ice) the car began to slide. The VDC stopped the car from movin completely. I was like are you kidding me...
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