What Do You Guys Think?(wheels)
Actually, on a car like the G35, staggered isn't going to help you handle any better and chances are it's going to make the car handle worse by introducing a lot of understeer. The point of staggering the wheel/tire width is to assist in traction on cars with high powered motors and/or rear engine layouts. It's also there to keep oversteer down by introducing some understeer. Adding much stagger (1"+) is going to make the G/Z drive more like a FWD car rather than a RWD car. It might look cool, but it's not going to help much in terms of overall performance. Now if you've got forced induction, then a staggered setup might be a idea to keep down the oversteer and give you more confidence in the turns.
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DOOOOOOOO IT!!
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By my rough calculations, if you were using say a 285 (ideal size for a 10") you would need something like 4+ degrees of additional camber to clear the same amount I get right now and I'm still rubbing a bit in corners until I roll the fenders but the tires sit perfectly flush with the stock fender. You'd probably need less camber if you stretch a 255 on there but that really seems counterintuitive to spend that much on the rim only to stretch a tiny tire on, tip it on its corner, and look like your axles snapped. I briefly contemplated buying coupe wheels when people said you could make them fit but then I realized you'd be putting in so much camber, you might as well roll on spares in back. IIRC drift cars run 8-9" rims w/ negative offsets and stretched tires on them with the goal to have the looks but minimal contact patch since traction is the enemy.
I'm running a 10.5" at +54 and a 10" at +20 would stick out 1.1" further given the same camber. Staggering 255/295's are overkill for my car but they came like this and it's damned near impossible to find an actual wheel this wide suitable for a sedan w/o going custom. At the very least, I'm not lowering my traction by putting in aggressive camber. Maybe it'll be incentive to build the car for enough hp to actually need that much tire.
I'm running a 10.5" at +54 and a 10" at +20 would stick out 1.1" further given the same camber. Staggering 255/295's are overkill for my car but they came like this and it's damned near impossible to find an actual wheel this wide suitable for a sedan w/o going custom. At the very least, I'm not lowering my traction by putting in aggressive camber. Maybe it'll be incentive to build the car for enough hp to actually need that much tire.
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i dont think ill need rediculous amounts of camber. at my current height, i had a 10" wide wheel on the rear with a +42 offset and a 275 wide tire and i had room to play with to clear a lower offset wheel. keep in mind i DO have rolled fenders, and i will flare the fenders if need be, but i doubt it. the 19x10+20 with a 245 tire should fit fine without excessive camber
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By my rough calculations, if you were using say a 285 (ideal size for a 10") you would need something like 4+ degrees of additional camber to clear the same amount I get right now and I'm still rubbing a bit in corners until I roll the fenders but the tires sit perfectly flush with the stock fender. You'd probably need less camber if you stretch a 255 on there but that really seems counterintuitive to spend that much on the rim only to stretch a tiny tire on, tip it on its corner, and look like your axles snapped. I briefly contemplated buying coupe wheels when people said you could make them fit but then I realized you'd be putting in so much camber, you might as well roll on spares in back. IIRC drift cars run 8-9" rims w/ negative offsets and stretched tires on them with the goal to have the looks but minimal contact patch since traction is the enemy.
I'm running a 10.5" at +54 and a 10" at +20 would stick out 1.1" further given the same camber. Staggering 255/295's are overkill for my car but they came like this and it's damned near impossible to find an actual wheel this wide suitable for a sedan w/o going custom. At the very least, I'm not lowering my traction by putting in aggressive camber. Maybe it'll be incentive to build the car for enough hp to actually need that much tire.
I'm running a 10.5" at +54 and a 10" at +20 would stick out 1.1" further given the same camber. Staggering 255/295's are overkill for my car but they came like this and it's damned near impossible to find an actual wheel this wide suitable for a sedan w/o going custom. At the very least, I'm not lowering my traction by putting in aggressive camber. Maybe it'll be incentive to build the car for enough hp to actually need that much tire.
It's a look that is not for everyone and a concept that nearly NOBODY gets, but for those who do, they enjoy the look. No use in trying to talk any of us that like the look out of doing it, we're going to do it whether you like it or not.
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You're also only dropped on Z springs... If you lowered your car 2" then you'd have plenty of room.
It's a look that is not for everyone and a concept that nearly NOBODY gets, but for those who do, they enjoy the look. No use in trying to talk any of us that like the look out of doing it, we're going to do it whether you like it or not.
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It's a look that is not for everyone and a concept that nearly NOBODY gets, but for those who do, they enjoy the look. No use in trying to talk any of us that like the look out of doing it, we're going to do it whether you like it or not.
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As for performance, its not like my 20's are helping anything on my car. Ideally the G would probably ride on forged 17x10" wheels just big enough to clear the brakes and wide enough to support as much tire they could fit under the car.
I briefly contemplated buying coupe wheels when people said you could make them fit but then I realized you'd be putting in so much camber, you might as well roll on spares in back. IIRC drift cars run 8-9" rims w/ negative offsets and stretched tires on them with the goal to have the looks but minimal contact patch since traction is the enemy.
8-9" wide?
Also, the massive amounts of camber are NOT there to reduce grip. The thought that drifters don't want grip is a huge misconception thrown around by people who haven't been involved in the sport. Grip is a GOOD thing in drifting, as you have to be able to control the car. If they didn't want grip, they'd just oil the entire track.
The massive amounts of camber are there so that when you throw all of the momentum and weight of the car sideways at 75+ mph, as the suspensions geometry moves, the outside wheel becomes flatter to the ground, which provides MORE traction.
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Not really expecting to talk anyone out of anything...just commenting how difficult it is to get a +20 into a G sedan. Also, I'm not quite sure how lowering further improves rubbing issues outside of going past the point of interference which is further increasing camber angle? Are your fenders pulled out and the car lowered past where they would normally hit or are you just mashing the tire past the fender on your way lower? My understanding is the rear suspension moves in a fairly simple arc and lowering a car further wouldn't change the path of the wheel...just where in that arc it sits when at rest.
As for performance, its not like my 20's are helping anything on my car. Ideally the G would probably ride on forged 17x10" wheels just big enough to clear the brakes and wide enough to support as much tire they could fit under the car.
As for performance, its not like my 20's are helping anything on my car. Ideally the G would probably ride on forged 17x10" wheels just big enough to clear the brakes and wide enough to support as much tire they could fit under the car.
Like i said earlier... to fit a 19x10 +20 on a G sedan with around a 2" drop, all you need is around -1.8 camber and a 255/35 tire, or a 245/40 like the OP wants to run.
-1.8 camber is NOTHING... i've ran up to -3.5 on my sedan and the tires didnt wear that fast, as long as the TOE is in spec, you're fine. TOE is the real tire killer.
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