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someone local was just selling those for $1500 w/o tires... and they went in 2 days. but i doubt you'd spend the $1500 on those 20's w/o tires plus they are heavy as hell
Someone offered them to me for $1100 without tires. I passed on it because someone on NYC told me they'll be too heavy and that they had them on their FX and the car drove worse as a result. They look awesome on the sedan though.