BEst Sway bars
BEst Sway bars
Ok I think the 350evo bars are probably the best sway bars available. And i am about to buy them soon. I just want everyone's opinions on if they agree with me or not before i waste my money in buying them. I figure i cant go wrong because the the japanese jgtc race teams all use the 350 evo sway bars for their 350z cars. They must feel these are the best thats why they use them.Any opinions would be appreciated. Thank You.
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Re: BEst Sway bars
Consider that what works on a glass smooth race course may be to stiff for many streets with bumps/undulations.
Consider that racer will not race in the rain without rain tires and or softening the rear bars.
Always nice to have an adjustable where the standard setting is in the middle allowing you to go softer on demand......or if you made a mistake in calculations. Or if you change tire compounds or in cold weather [below 50F] when rear tires lose friction.
Consider that racer will not race in the rain without rain tires and or softening the rear bars.
Always nice to have an adjustable where the standard setting is in the middle allowing you to go softer on demand......or if you made a mistake in calculations. Or if you change tire compounds or in cold weather [below 50F] when rear tires lose friction.
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Re: BEst Sway bars
Do they have collars like the OEM and Stillen bar do? If not,
you will probably be disappointed. The Hotchiks bars don't
have them and some have reported problems with the bar
shifting.
03 5AT Sedan, sunroof, splashguards, HKS muffler,
14 wire Grounding kit, Z Duct, Stillen HF/AB
Underbody rear diffusers, Drilled alum pedals,
Stillen sway bars S/H. Sport Tuned Suspension
you will probably be disappointed. The Hotchiks bars don't
have them and some have reported problems with the bar
shifting.
03 5AT Sedan, sunroof, splashguards, HKS muffler,
14 wire Grounding kit, Z Duct, Stillen HF/AB
Underbody rear diffusers, Drilled alum pedals,
Stillen sway bars S/H. Sport Tuned Suspension
Re: BEst Sway bars
Bar shifts because the isolated rear subframe moves under load more than the bar actually twists due to 4:1 motion ratio ~~0.75-<1.0".
Collars are a good thing to have as they keep the bar from moving side to side which can eventually wear out end links and support bushings.
Collars are a good thing to have as they keep the bar from moving side to side which can eventually wear out end links and support bushings.
Re: BEst Sway bars
Yes, the 350Evos do come with the collars and I believe they are the same ones you can get from McMasters.
04' G35S 6MT Ivory Pearl, Willow, Premium
Z-Tube / NFC Y-Pipe / Custom Mid-Pipe / 350 EVO Rear Sway/ '03 350Z Shocks and Springs
04' G35S 6MT Ivory Pearl, Willow, Premium
Z-Tube / NFC Y-Pipe / Custom Mid-Pipe / 350 EVO Rear Sway/ '03 350Z Shocks and Springs
Re: BEst Sway bars
im gonna have a little extra cash here in a couple of days (around 600-700 dollars) and was thinking sways possibly. I really havent heard a definate answer on the best or worst. I know i want to go adjustable in case i decide on tein basics down the road and want to transfer body roll back to the back... im getting coilovers after i get my wheels in a couple of months (march is delivery date from website =(
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Re: BEst Sway bars
Hey Gaaaar,
You should check out the Hotchkis sways. A lot of G35 and 350z guys have them on their car. Its not to expensive and its 3 way adjustable to. Some people say its the best bang for the bucks =). Let me know if you are interested on the Hotchkis sways.
P.S. - You can send me a PM or IM or E-mail.
- Jimmy
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You should check out the Hotchkis sways. A lot of G35 and 350z guys have them on their car. Its not to expensive and its 3 way adjustable to. Some people say its the best bang for the bucks =). Let me know if you are interested on the Hotchkis sways.
P.S. - You can send me a PM or IM or E-mail.
- Jimmy
Street Image - 350z and G35 Specialists
Aim: itzjimme
E-mail: jimmy@streetimage
Re: BEst Sway bars
hotchikis are going at $275.
Im only planning to add the Stillen rear sway at its softest
setting on my lowering spring setup using factory wheels/tires.
You should calculate how much stiffer you already are
from lowering springs,etc. and calculate how much stiffness
you really need vs road conditions and tires you're using than
just putting them on because pro's use it.
2004 G35C 6MT Brilliant Silver
Im only planning to add the Stillen rear sway at its softest
setting on my lowering spring setup using factory wheels/tires.
You should calculate how much stiffer you already are
from lowering springs,etc. and calculate how much stiffness
you really need vs road conditions and tires you're using than
just putting them on because pro's use it.
2004 G35C 6MT Brilliant Silver
Re: BEst Sway bars
I just bought my Hotchkis from TitanMotorSports.com and was able to get in on a group buy for $250 shipped - best deal I've heard of yet. I believe Hotchkis allows for the stiffest setting of all the bars, but I also haven't heard of anyone going stiffer than the medium setting.
Regarding the collar issue - Nismo, Stillen, and OEM have collars integrated into the bar to prevent lateral shifting. Some Hotchkis owners have reported problems with knocking and other annoying sounds as a result. This is correctable though - if you do a search, some very recent postings provide part numbers for collars you can attach to the Hotchkis yourself, should they become problematic.
I went with the Hotchkis for the price, for the positive reviews I've read, and also because they use polyurethane bushings, rather than rubber or re-using the OEM bushings. From the people I've spoken with / exchanged posts with, the swaybar mod is immediately noticeable, provides much improved handling and reduced body roll. I suspect that any upgraded, adjustable swaybar is going to be a good bang for the buck mod.
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Z-tube/K&N Air Filter/5-wire Grounding Kit
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Regarding the collar issue - Nismo, Stillen, and OEM have collars integrated into the bar to prevent lateral shifting. Some Hotchkis owners have reported problems with knocking and other annoying sounds as a result. This is correctable though - if you do a search, some very recent postings provide part numbers for collars you can attach to the Hotchkis yourself, should they become problematic.
I went with the Hotchkis for the price, for the positive reviews I've read, and also because they use polyurethane bushings, rather than rubber or re-using the OEM bushings. From the people I've spoken with / exchanged posts with, the swaybar mod is immediately noticeable, provides much improved handling and reduced body roll. I suspect that any upgraded, adjustable swaybar is going to be a good bang for the buck mod.
-townsley-
03 Premium BS/Willow 5AT Sport Sedan
Z-tube/K&N Air Filter/5-wire Grounding Kit
Tinted/Clear Corners/Blinker Mod/Splash Guards
Debadged/Aluminum Pedals/Rear JDM Lip Spoiler
Re: BEst Sway bars
Wow u guys make the Hotchkis sound so good... Hmm.. maybe ill buy that instead, but where can i get those collars? i Dont want my car to start knocking? Will it definitely be a problem? What are the chances that u will run into the collar problem if u purchase the Hotchkis sway bars??
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the Hotchkis are actually the WORST sway bars... people like them just because theyre the cheapest...
think about it: all high-end performance parts makers have the collars (Nismo, Eibach, Stillen), but Hotchkis doesnt', and theyre the cheapest because they dont have the collars...
Hotchkis: no collars, 3-way adjustable $250
Stillen: collars, 3-way adjustable $275
Nismo: collars, non-adjustable $435
Eibach: collars, 3-way adjustable $350
Stock (Nissan): collars, non-adjustable
...its a no-brainer!
think about it: all high-end performance parts makers have the collars (Nismo, Eibach, Stillen), but Hotchkis doesnt', and theyre the cheapest because they dont have the collars...
Hotchkis: no collars, 3-way adjustable $250
Stillen: collars, 3-way adjustable $275
Nismo: collars, non-adjustable $435
Eibach: collars, 3-way adjustable $350
Stock (Nissan): collars, non-adjustable
...its a no-brainer!
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Re: BEst Sway bars
I was thinking the same but didn't want to offend any of the Hotchkis
owners. The Stillen bars are great.
03 5AT Sedan, sunroof, splashguards, HKS muffler,
14 wire Grounding kit, Z Duct, Stillen HF/AB
Underbody rear diffusers, Drilled alum pedals,
Stillen sway bars S/H. Sport Tuned Suspension
owners. The Stillen bars are great.
03 5AT Sedan, sunroof, splashguards, HKS muffler,
14 wire Grounding kit, Z Duct, Stillen HF/AB
Underbody rear diffusers, Drilled alum pedals,
Stillen sway bars S/H. Sport Tuned Suspension
Re: BEst Sway bars
Yeah - good logic. If it's the most expensive, it must be good. It has nothing to do with Stillen's chronic over-pricing, or import fees for Nismo products. A fool and his money are soon parted. An intelligent buyer will do some research on the G35driver.com site, weigh the positive and negative reviews of all the products, decide whether the reported hassles with Stillen installation are worth the extra cost, determine which offers the most adjustable and overall stiffest setting (Hotchkis), debate the pros and cons of OEM rubber versus polyurethane bushings, think about the benefits of greasable bushings, and then see where the best value can be found.
For some, money is not an object, and Hotchkis are still desireable. Hey, if you're interested, I'll be selling my OEM swaybars. They're non-adjustable, have collars and I'll let them go for $500. For that price, they must be good, right?
-townsley-
03 Premium BS/Willow 5AT Sport Sedan
Z-tube/K&N Air Filter/5-wire Grounding Kit
Tinted/Clear Corners/Blinker Mod/Splash Guards
Debadged/Aluminum Pedals/Rear JDM Lip Spoiler
For some, money is not an object, and Hotchkis are still desireable. Hey, if you're interested, I'll be selling my OEM swaybars. They're non-adjustable, have collars and I'll let them go for $500. For that price, they must be good, right?
-townsley-
03 Premium BS/Willow 5AT Sport Sedan
Z-tube/K&N Air Filter/5-wire Grounding Kit
Tinted/Clear Corners/Blinker Mod/Splash Guards
Debadged/Aluminum Pedals/Rear JDM Lip Spoiler



