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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Tein Flex Question

Have a question about how long would tein flex last without having a problem?
like replacing for new parts....

What other product would be good to just lower the car and not worry about replacing parts for long time??
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Any Tein product that lowers car and make ur car to have more luxurious and smooth ride??? After you lower it?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BombRush
Have a question about how long would tein flex last without having a problem?
like replacing for new parts....

What other product would be good to just lower the car and not worry about replacing parts for long time??
Tein does last longer than JIC. It will last quite long providing you don't off-road in them! or if you're constantly driving hard, then they'll get weaker faster. Tanabe's last long too. Kei Office, is strictly drift like setup. they're made to be beaten, but you sacrifice ride quality.

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Any Tein product that lowers car and make ur car to have more luxurious and smooth ride??? After you lower it?
well, Tein Type CS (comfort spec) allows you to lower the car and maintain near stock ride feel/quality. i believe the Tanabe (not sure which model, call up SG), has a coilover that more comfortable than Tein Type CS.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 01:22 AM
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I would think the flex's would last longer then the type CS. The Flex's are true height adjustable with the adjustments to let you get the full ride out of the shocks. Coilovers that rely on the spring perch to adjust the height wear out quicker.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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I would think the flex's would last longer then the type CS. The Flex's are true height adjustable with the adjustments to let you get the full ride out of the shocks. Coilovers that rely on the spring perch to adjust the height wear out quicker.
so the flex's are dual height adjustment? via adjusting shock body(mount) and spring preload?? i was wondering if its like this in the rear also (adjustment via shock and springs) since the spring and shock is assembled separate.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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^I know that the HKS coilovers can slamm the G and still have that excellent ride... Correct me if I'm wrong SenJen... You rode with 1SICG35... Smooth... That's the same set-up that IPG has with the gold SF-Challenge's... damn that guy... He's my idol...
 

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^I know that the HKS coilovers can slamm the G and still have that excellent ride... Correct me if I'm wrong SenJen... You rode with 1SICG35... Smooth... That's the same set-up that IPG has with the gold SF-Challenge's... damn that guy... He's my idol...
is that the same one Lucky is selling in the Hawaii forums? does that have dual height adjustment also?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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so the flex's are dual height adjustment? via adjusting shock body(mount) and spring preload?? i was wondering if its like this in the rear also (adjustment via shock and springs) since the spring and shock is assembled separate.
No you cannot adjust rear preload. And any of the current crop of system's that can are way too stiff to make sense for anything other then a GT500 car.
 
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Then how stiff will my car be with Tein Flex ?? Even if i set it to the softest setting, will it be still much stiffer than stock?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 01:56 AM
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after riding in 1SICG35's "dragster," i've come to conclusion that Flex's are better. however, keep in mind you can order different spring rates. IMO, Flex's hands down. Fully adjustable. i think the HKS rs is not fully adjustable, someone correct me.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 02:03 AM
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I wonder how stiff tein flexs are.. Is it like 4 runner sport edition?? if it is too bouncy.. I am not really getting an exact definitino of meaning getting stiffer with tein-flex
 
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^ the softest setting on the Flex's in a coupe wouldn't be too much stiffer than stock. keep in mind, no suspension is more comfortable than OEM. any aftermarket suspension is stiffer than stock. however, you can order different spring rates to come along with the Flex's (it'll take longer), but that would defeat the purpose of handling better than stock. since you want comfort, just pick up the Tein CS. they are not fully adjustable.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 02:15 AM
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Thx for your reply, do you know how long they would last? and whats the downside of having not fully adjustable suspension
 
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BombRush
Thx for your reply, do you know how long they would last? and whats the downside of having not fully adjustable suspension
they will last years trust me. unless, you're an autocrosser/draggster/strip/etc. everyday. or if you decide to go off-roading with it! no joke, i see flips (no offense) here in hawaii with dropped cars driving on ruff terrains!

not having fully adjustable suspension might cause you to bottom out. if you lower it lower than the recommended height, you won't loose the load/rate. it will be more crappy ride if it's not fully adj.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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Then how stiff will my car be with Tein Flex ?? Even if i set it to the softest setting, will it be still much stiffer than stock?
Let me quote a sedan owner that has the flex coilovers on his car, this is in response to the notion that they can ride like stock.

Originally Posted by THX723
Not a chance. Spring is fixed and 12kg/mm is 12kg/mm ... there's no way around it. Some people will tolerate this setup just fine on the softest damper rate, other will not. On the softest damper rate ... it is still leagues above the stock ride and feel.


Clint (THX723)
I'll quote my reply to his from the same thread.

Originally Posted by Gsedan35
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Clint does own the Tein flex, his comments are first hand.

Adding to his comments, Tein, the company that makes the product, will tell you the exact same thing. They do not do not aggree that the ride quality is like oem. When told some flex owners claim the ride is like oem, this was the tech's responce "Your kidding right, I've driven the developement car, it's way stiffer, you can't increase spring rates like that and have the same ride quality" Fact is, you cannot escape the simply physics of employing a dramatically increased spring rate and pay no price for that. We are talking about a car that has springs that are 114% stiffer then oem. Simply does not come with the realm of subjective opinion. And, the most the flex will reduce dampning control is by 112lbs of spring rate at the absolute lowest setting, still leaves a 672lbs spring rate at all 4 corners that is being dampned at a 560lbs rate. Now the Tein CS, which use's spring rates that are only 25% stiffer then oem and dampners specifically valved for comfort, having a oem like ride quality is within the realm of possibility.


Tein Flex (twin tube construction, adjustable dampners
Full-length adjustment and height adjustment for separate setting of the height and spring preload
Spring rates 672/672
Stiffer then oem by F+114% R+98
Transfers +16% roll stiffness to front
Side Note: Extremely high spring rates mean even when the adjustable damping is set as low as possible, you may not find ride quality happiness, several reports of this setups harshness exist Yet a few owner comment’s of a “like stock ride quality” also exist. However given the fact that they use a spring stiffness that’s over 100% stiffer then oem, if ride quality is of concern, either hitch a ride in a car equipped with them or make a different choice. In addition, several review’s have been done by people actually having the original more softly sprung Tein Flex coilovers do not take their comments to mean the same as the one using the current product, the original product specs are listed below under Tein Flex JDM.

Tein Flex JDM specs (can be special ordered est 6-8 weeks delivery)
Full-length adjustment and height adjustment for separate setting of the height and spring preload
Spring rates 560/560
Stiffer then oem by F+78% R+64%
Transfers 14% roll stiffness to front
Side Note: This is the original specs first offered in the U.S. with the Flex, shortly after it’s introduction the specs changed to those listed further above (672/672)
 
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