Down Time..
^^^ amen brother! Not to mention the relentless encounters of slowness!!!!
This site has issues - however, it doesn’t seem to be addressed... for certain no acceptable communication regarding the issues exists.
This site has issues - however, it doesn’t seem to be addressed... for certain no acceptable communication regarding the issues exists.
Originally Posted by G35Sask
A)Momentary delay does not equal "connection to server has timed out" with reloads arriving at same result.
B)See above.
C)Still missing the point. We as members pay for services that is at best spotty at times, thats the point I am trying to make. Something CAN easily be done to reward paying members for their continued support, but it doesn't look promising.
D)You started the belittling and condescending, I only reciprocated.
Please save me the "I am a mod...." speech because I see by your final point that is where this is headed.
I guess the only thing left for me to do, is drop it and voice my displeasure with not renewing my membership this summer. Unless an Admin chimes in, this is pointless.
B)See above.
C)Still missing the point. We as members pay for services that is at best spotty at times, thats the point I am trying to make. Something CAN easily be done to reward paying members for their continued support, but it doesn't look promising.
D)You started the belittling and condescending, I only reciprocated.
Please save me the "I am a mod...." speech because I see by your final point that is where this is headed.
I guess the only thing left for me to do, is drop it and voice my displeasure with not renewing my membership this summer. Unless an Admin chimes in, this is pointless.
The funny thing is that a lot of members think that the entire Staff has control over this forum. It's almost as if members think we turn this site on and off with a switch, just to **** you guys off. And a lot of members act as if we are getting paid and it is our sole duty to please you guys. As if. I wish I got paid for this.
You don't think it's frustrating for us? Wrong. And the fact is that most of the Staff does not deal with these issues (server, software, etc.) hands on - just a couple of the Admins mostly. With that said, not all of us always have the answers.
Members have asked me what's wrong and when the forums will be back up. I tell them I don't know. Then they think I'm just playing dumb and stalling. As a result, they start giving me a **** attitude. Well f*** that. That's where the "**** happends, deal with it" mentality comes from.
You don't think it's frustrating for us? Wrong. And the fact is that most of the Staff does not deal with these issues (server, software, etc.) hands on - just a couple of the Admins mostly. With that said, not all of us always have the answers.
Members have asked me what's wrong and when the forums will be back up. I tell them I don't know. Then they think I'm just playing dumb and stalling. As a result, they start giving me a **** attitude. Well f*** that. That's where the "**** happends, deal with it" mentality comes from.
One thing that the site being off has shown my is how bad my addiction to this site is. I go into withdrawals when it's down. I find myself checking it over and over and over, hoping that it will come back up.
You crack sellers have done a great job of making sure that I am hooked bad on this stuff. So....
There have been no momentary outages of this site. It is down for hours or even days at a time. When it is up, it's slow then it's fast then it's slow then it's fast then it's dead. As for rewarding "loyal" members, I don't give a shit. I just want it to work.
With that in mind, I do know that you guys have "day jobs" and this site is not your main job. Just do what you need to do, move this bitch to a decent server and lets get back to what we love.
You crack sellers have done a great job of making sure that I am hooked bad on this stuff. So....
There have been no momentary outages of this site. It is down for hours or even days at a time. When it is up, it's slow then it's fast then it's slow then it's fast then it's dead. As for rewarding "loyal" members, I don't give a shit. I just want it to work.
With that in mind, I do know that you guys have "day jobs" and this site is not your main job. Just do what you need to do, move this bitch to a decent server and lets get back to what we love.
Originally Posted by O RLY
The funny thing is that a lot of members think that the entire Staff has control over this forum. It's almost as if members think we turn this site on and off with a switch, just to **** you guys off. And a lot of members act as if we are getting paid and it is our sole duty to please you guys. As if. I wish I got paid for this.
You don't think it's frustrating for us? Wrong. And the fact is that most of the Staff does not deal with these issues (server, software, etc.) hands on - just a couple of the Admins mostly. With that said, not all of us always have the answers.
Members have asked me what's wrong and when the forums will be back up. I tell them I don't know. Then they think I'm just playing dumb and stalling. As a result, they start giving me a **** attitude. Well f*** that. That's where the "**** happends, deal with it" mentality comes from.
You don't think it's frustrating for us? Wrong. And the fact is that most of the Staff does not deal with these issues (server, software, etc.) hands on - just a couple of the Admins mostly. With that said, not all of us always have the answers.
Members have asked me what's wrong and when the forums will be back up. I tell them I don't know. Then they think I'm just playing dumb and stalling. As a result, they start giving me a **** attitude. Well f*** that. That's where the "**** happends, deal with it" mentality comes from.
Telling someone you don’t know at least indicates you realize it’s a problem… all the other responses start to frustrate the hell out of me.
Originally Posted by OCG35
There is a very big difference between saying “I don’t know”… and saying “it must be _______” (something on users end, fill in the blank) – or saying “it’s not that bad deal with it”
Telling someone you don’t know at least indicates you realize it’s a problem… all the other responses start to frustrate the hell out of me.
Telling someone you don’t know at least indicates you realize it’s a problem… all the other responses start to frustrate the hell out of me.
I don't ever recall ever saying that it is something on the users' end. In fact, that would be a stupid response, IMO. If it's not working for me and all the other hundreds of members, I wouldn't tell people it's on their end.
Unfortunately, whether it is that bad or not, we all have to deal with it. Yes, that means us [the Staff], too. In fact, the Admins have more to deal with in that they are trying to fix the problems at hand.
We understand that the down time is frustrating for you guys, not to mention not knowing why the down time to begin with. However, you guys need to realize that most of us [the Staff] don't know what is causing it either. With that said, having dozens of users in our faces regarding something we know little to nothing about and have no control over is even more frustrating.
I'm just trying to help you guys understand that this frustration is two sided and that the regular members are not the only ones facing it.
Originally Posted by O RLY
To be clear, my posts are not intended for any specific forum members.
I don't ever recall ever saying that it is something on the users' end. In fact, that would be a stupid response, IMO. If it's not working for me and all the other hundreds of members, I wouldn't tell people it's on their end.
Unfortunately, whether it is that bad or not, we all have to deal with it. Yes, that means us [the Staff], too. In fact, the Admins have more to deal with in that they are trying to fix the problems at hand.
We understand that the down time is frustrating for you guys, not to mention not knowing why the down time to begin with. However, you guys need to realize that most of us [the Staff] don't know what is causing it either. With that said, having dozens of users in our faces regarding something we know little to nothing about and have no control over is even more frustrating.
I'm just trying to help you guys understand that this frustration is two sided and that the regular members are not the only ones facing it.
I don't ever recall ever saying that it is something on the users' end. In fact, that would be a stupid response, IMO. If it's not working for me and all the other hundreds of members, I wouldn't tell people it's on their end.
Unfortunately, whether it is that bad or not, we all have to deal with it. Yes, that means us [the Staff], too. In fact, the Admins have more to deal with in that they are trying to fix the problems at hand.
We understand that the down time is frustrating for you guys, not to mention not knowing why the down time to begin with. However, you guys need to realize that most of us [the Staff] don't know what is causing it either. With that said, having dozens of users in our faces regarding something we know little to nothing about and have no control over is even more frustrating.
I'm just trying to help you guys understand that this frustration is two sided and that the regular members are not the only ones facing it.
I prefer the "I don’t know" to the other ludicrous responses that have been given.
Having that been said – SOMEONE knows… and that person(s) should provide information to the staff to relate to members/customers…
In business communication is everything. It will make or break a company… most people just want explanations for problems (not just this one)… if a reasonable explanation is given tolerance usually follows… when no explanation or asinine explanations are given people get frustrated and will voice their frustration.
Originally Posted by OCG35
My post was a synopsis of various responses from multiple staff/moderators/admin in a variety of threads pertaining to this subject... Wasn’t calling you out - in fact you stated "you don't know".... There are several that have stated what I mentioned.
I prefer the "I don’t know" to the other ludicrous responses that have been given.
Having that been said – SOMEONE knows… and that person(s) should provide information to the staff to relate to members/customers…
In business communication is everything. It will make or break a company… most people just want explanations for problems (not just this one)… if a reasonable explanation is given tolerance usually follows… when no explanation or asinine explanations are given people get frustrated and will voice their frustration.
I prefer the "I don’t know" to the other ludicrous responses that have been given.
Having that been said – SOMEONE knows… and that person(s) should provide information to the staff to relate to members/customers…
In business communication is everything. It will make or break a company… most people just want explanations for problems (not just this one)… if a reasonable explanation is given tolerance usually follows… when no explanation or asinine explanations are given people get frustrated and will voice their frustration.
And yes, someone does know what is going on. The problem is how is that person to go about relaying the information to the rest of the Staff? Eventually, word of mouth does get around - but not always as quickly as the members demand it. Remember, we aren't Staff members in the traditional sense of paid Staff members. We volunteer our time here. While I would like to think that we are all fairly close, we are only so close considering we're all interweb friends (
). So it's not like we all have each others' personal contacts to call whenever a problem comes up.As can be seen in the PW threads that go on on my350z.com or my37.com when g35driver is down, the problem is eventually posted. I do believe it should be done in a more organized fashion, i.e. be posted as an announcement on my350z/myg37 rather than be posted randomly within the PW threads. But I have no control over that as I have no pull over there.
I think that Cal did a good job of explaining and sorting things out. 
In addition, presently, I feel that at the end of the day, if 'Driver is up and running, it's been a good day. I can fully appreciate, understand and share in everyones' frustrations. The frustrations and emotions, I believe, are due in large part to 'Driver's popularity. It's a place to hang out and relax during the day and after a long day at work. Hopefully, the issues will be remedied in short time.
To the silent majority . . . The 'Driver Staff appreciates your understanding and support, as well.
Thanks to all of the 'Driver members, whom make this site such a wonderful community to visit.
In addition, presently, I feel that at the end of the day, if 'Driver is up and running, it's been a good day. I can fully appreciate, understand and share in everyones' frustrations. The frustrations and emotions, I believe, are due in large part to 'Driver's popularity. It's a place to hang out and relax during the day and after a long day at work. Hopefully, the issues will be remedied in short time.
To the silent majority . . . The 'Driver Staff appreciates your understanding and support, as well.
Thanks to all of the 'Driver members, whom make this site such a wonderful community to visit.