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Old 07-09-2007, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The amount of neg camber required to make these things work would totally screw up any handling the Z was attempting to have.

ya camber would totally screw up the handling...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camber_angle
"Camber angle alters the handling qualities of a particular suspension design; in particular, negative camber improves grip when cornering. This is because it presents the tire, which is taking the greatest proportion of the cornering forces, at a more optimal angle to the road, increasing its contact patch and transmitting the forces through the vertical plane of the tire, rather than through a shear force across it."

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Excessive negative camber put LESS tire on the road. Proof is called physics. And of course common logic. But JDM yO! stylzzz is rarely logical.
lets say you run -5 degress of camber (which is totally excessive), just for an example. 1 degree of camber is equal to 2.5mm clearance on the top of the tire, conversely 2.5mm of tire lost. at -5 (max camber) you would be gaining 12.5mm of clearance, which would tuck the wheel, and as a result youd be losing 12.5mm of tire. so if you were running a 275 tire, you would have the contact patch of a 265 tire (roughly). 12.5mm = .5in. HALF AN INCH OMG!!! you would lose half an inch of contact patch. you can have your so called 'physics', ill stick to aggressive offsets and flush fitment.
 

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Old 07-09-2007, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HoeBag
ya camber would totally screw up the handling...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camber_angle
"Camber angle alters the handling qualities of a particular suspension design; in particular, negative camber improves grip when cornering. This is because it presents the tire, which is taking the greatest proportion of the cornering forces, at a more optimal angle to the road, increasing its contact patch and transmitting the forces through the vertical plane of the tire, rather than through a shear force across it."



lets say you run -5 degress of camber (which is totally excessive), just for an example. 1 degree of camber is equal to 2.5mm clearance on the top of the tire, conversely 2.5mm of tire lost. at -5 (max camber) you would be gaining 12.5mm of clearance, which would tuck the wheel, and as a result youd be losing 12.5mm of tire. so if you were running a 275 tire, you would have the contact patch of a 265 tire (roughly). 12.5mm = .5in. HALF AN INCH OMG!!! you would lose half an inch of contact patch. you can have your so called 'physics', ill stick to aggressive offsets and flush fitment.
Really. How much weight is applied to each section of that "new" 265 width tire? Thanks.
 
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:04 PM
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Im going to be running -3 on my new set up 8) bump for your gorgeous wheels hoe bag!
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Really. How much weight is applied to each section of that "new" 265 width tire? Thanks.

you never said anything about tire wear; your arguement was handling. as long as the caster and toe are set correctly, the camber wont eat through the tire that fast, but itll still be somewhat significant. going through tires quicker than the norm is just a given - those who are interested in aggressive fitment already know this.


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Im going to be running -3 on my new set up 8) bump for your gorgeous wheels hoe bag!
thanks man, gl with your setup!
 
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:41 AM
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I was refering to how the car's weight is spread over the length of the contact patch. If most of the weight is on the inner part of the tire (as evidenced by the tire wear), then the contact patch is somewhat irrevelant.

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you never said anything about tire wear; your arguement was handling. as long as the caster and toe are set correctly, the camber wont eat through the tire that fast, but itll still be somewhat significant. going through tires quicker than the norm is just a given - those who are interested in aggressive fitment already know this.




thanks man, gl with your setup!
 
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ok, whatever. im just gonna say agree to disagree as this discussion really has no bearing on the sale of these wheels.
 
 
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